U.S. Constitution 4th Amendment is Dead in America
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@AudiRS4Life: You missed Orin Kerr's context—an audience of legal scholars who understood that the Katz test only applies to areas enumerated by the 4th Amendment ("persons, houses, papers, and effects"). Indeed, that is exactly what the U.S. Supreme Court said in United States v. Jones (2012): "Katz did not repudiate that understanding."
Since the inspector here did not violate the man's 4th Amendment rights, she may have the right under Indiana Code 16-20-1-23 to enter.
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@heymisterderp: As you ought to know, neither "house" nor "effects" apply here.
Although "house" includes curtilage, the U.S. Supreme Court defines an area as curtilage if it harbors intimate activity associated with the sanctity of a man's home and the privacies of life. She did not search any such activity.
"Effects" are moveable personal property. She did not unreasonably search any of those, either.
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What AudiRS4Life said.
The 4th protects our rights against govt searches by adding prerequisites to those searches e.g. a search warrant, with probable cause, and with specifics about what is to be searched; these prerequisites exist precisely so that searches are not "unreasonable".
The govt apologist who has so much problem dealing with just one extra easy step of obtaining a warrant acts like a plague to our Constitution.
Incidentally, the 4th's "House" and "Effects" both apply here.
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Doctrine for what is a 4th amendment “search”:
A search occurs either when
(a) A trespassory test is satisfied: (1) a “trespass” occurs, (2) the trespass is onto an enumerated item listed in the Fourth Amendment (“persons, houses, papers, or effects”), and (3) it occurs with the intent “to find something or to obtain information”
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(b) The Katz test is satisfied: the government conduct violates a subjective expectation of privacy and an objective reasonable expectation of privacy
@heymisterderp lol...well, i and david (and pafoonik too) allegedly have a 'two year addiction' but you have a week old addiction which, per your logic, is no better.
i noticed the times you posted...10 hours ago, 9 hours ago, 5 hours ago. you gonna get some sleep?
and spamming me and david...for shame. pafoonik saw that too. i noticed that for all your interest in this topic, you spammed us. how sad. don't want those dissenting points of view?
neoconsnightmare3 1 day ago 39
@heymisterderp said, "Well then take trivial and useless which is the explanation for why it's irrelevant to this video".
Thanks for confirming that your original claims about what Katz protects are trivial and useless.
DavidForthoffer 1 day ago 37