Can a scientific illiterate 'debate' science?

Venomfangx has asked if I would like to debate with him, and I would be grateful if someone would forward him this video.

The answer of course is I have about as much interest in 'debating' venomfangx as Stephen Hawkings has in debating Miss Teen South Carolina on General Relativity in the context of black holes.

Venomfangx has the track record of a scientific illiterate.
There is no documented case in history where a scientific illiterate has made a paradigm shift contribution to the knowledge of mankind.
Could VFX be the first? Well that's for him to establish, but the precedent of the entire of human history says no.

Naturally if VFX can establish that there is some reason why he is not a creationist moron whose most significant role in life is to give everyone someone who they can laugh at without fear of reprisal, then I would be happy to debate with him.
However tautologically if venomfangx is some world class genius just masquerading under the mask of being an uneducated IDiot, then why would he be wasting his time 'debating' people on youtube.

DonExodus2 (some *SUPERB* vids)
http://www.youtube.com/user/DonExodus2
and
Expelledexposed (National Center for Science and Education)
http://www.youtube.com/user/expelledexposed

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• evolution
• science
• Atheism
• creationism
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• Cameron

[pkemrin]

Dear Thunderf00t: You're awesome. Keep on rocking. Don't listen to the Youtube colleagues who have turned against you for reasons that are almost 100% that they're assholes. They've all jumped on a bandwagon that doesn't reflect this viewers perspective.

Keep being Awesome!

WriterTank.co m's Jacob Duchaine

[BraniusBalki]

Dont do it Thunderf00t, I smell a kidnapping followed by a kangaroo court. In the words of Admiral Ackbar 'Its a trap'

[Blargaha]

@LiberalsUtopian But I only have your words on the "rascist rant", and you have an axe to grind. I'm sorry, but that is not sufficient evidence.

[LiberalsUtopian]

@Blargaha Its not an ad hominem. His arguments could very well be right. The fact remains he is an ignorant bigot. And yes his racist rant against the man in white was quite real.

[Blargaha]

@LiberalsUtopian Are you refering to VenomFangX? That is, the guy in white in this video? He is an idiot...

Aparently won't do, proof of that rascist rant, or it didn't happen. What you are trying is now called Ad hominem, which is, "substituting an argument with an unrelated attack on a person". Thunderf00t is one of the most subscribed atheists on youtube, of course he's going to get undeserved attacks from angry religious people.

[LiberalsUtopian]

@Blargaha Thunderf00t interprited the japanese man in white as mocking the bereaved and their dead. Apperantly thunderf00t caused a huge drama and went into a racist intolerant rant.

[LiberalsUtopian]

@Blargaha That is not really the point. If he was a manager at mccdonalds then he would refuse to hire people based on their religion or skin color. He also behaves aggressivly tward people of faith in different in social settings when its really not justified. I was told that at his relatives funeral a good freind from japan was there who was even a fellow atheist. However, he was wearing white as that is the custom in japan.

[Blargaha]

@LiberalsUtopian To be frank I know nothing about Thunderf00t's friends, so I would not speculate.

But, if I also was working as a bio-chemist, I would not hire someone that do not accept evolution, and I believe no-one in a scientific context would. You see, accepting the theory of evolution is crucial for most sciences, and I should never hire one one who don't fit the description, i.ie. is a creationist,

[LiberalsUtopian]

@Blargaha Thunderf00t discriminates in his personal life and in hiring practices based on religion. Even if it has no bearing on job preformance or interpersonal significance. Think about it, have you ever seen thunderf00t have a freind that is a christian? a muslim? a hindu? I thought not. Thunderf00t is an ignorant bigot end of story.

[Blargaha]

@LiberalsUtopian Bigoted, how?

[LiberalsUtopian]

what a bigoted video from a bigoted person.

[alienisuntverus]

"Can a scientific illiterate 'debate' science?"

No.

Problem solved.