Ferneyhough- Cassandra's Dream Song

One of the single most insane pieces ever written. This is probably Ferneyhough's most famous piece, or at least the piece everyone references when trying to describe just exactly what Ferneyhough's "style" is. This piece is so dense, it's only two pages of music; it uses basically any extended technique you could think of, including some devilish multiphonics.

The performer is actually a member here, and would like for me to promote his website in exchange for uploading his recording. His website is:

www.richardcraig.net

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[vtrevlyn39]

@John11inch. It should be "associated with" or "attached to", not "imbued to".

[John11inch]

@vtrevlyn39

It shouldn't be one or the other. Any of the above are grammatically correct. Trying to correct grammar that's already correct is the biggest sign that you're a failure as a grammar Nazi. Also, the period ending your sentence should be inside the quotation mark.

Thanks for the tip.

[gtralisfr69]

This is my favorite song to listen to when I go clubbing in South Beach

[trees1]

It sounds not as complicated as it looks. The score is just beyond human's belief.

[John11inch]

@jcbahr

No. You can't. My my, look who can't read. You 100% do not understand. There is indeterminacy imbued to the work by its difficulty. This cannot be replicated by making it easier, or using different notation. You do not know what New Complexity means.

[jcbahr]

@John11inch My my.. look who's gone to the "you used a word wrong, therefore I'm right" argument. rgtanaka has a point. You can achieve the same effect without making things so difficult for the performer.

[John11inch]

@rgtanaka

100% subjective statements given in a way to make them look 100% objective. But you failed. Also, your use of the word "solely" is inappropriate, and therefore everything that proceeds is factually inaccurate.

[rgtanaka]

@John11inch If the purpose and meaning of these types of works are derived solely from watching the performer struggle, then it's just another characteristic of the style's intellectual and aesthetic weakness.

Difficulty and struggle can be found in many different styles and musics, so that "in it of itself" is not very interesting, and never will be. It does say something about those who write and enjoy the process of watching the performer struggle purposelessly, though.

[John11inch]

@rgtanaka

Of course your statement that this music can be reproduced without using so many technicalities is 100% false, given that part of the music is, in and of itself, the performer's difficulty with the work.

[rgtanaka]

@John11inch Ferneyhough likened the piece to “a sharp pain of a paper cut, and citing Roland Barthes, the erotic glimpses of flesh between a woman’s garments” - it's in Perspective of New Music if you want a source.

The problem with these pieces is that you can achieve the same effect with notation that requires a lot less work. Assuming he's not incompetent, it's a situation of an abusive co-dependency, instigated largely by the composer.

[John11inch]

@arielunbound

I'm not sure what violence you're talking about, nor why catharsis thereof would ever be desirable. I also don't see an adequate specificity in your argument such that it would not apply to the "violent" works of Bach, Beethoven and Mozart. I think that you don't think.

[arielunbound]

But does it have any actual artistic purpose? If you have actually experienced violence in your life, this is not cathartic of that experience, but seems to seek to reinflict it - for no gain.