under the wires agcat

demonstrating how to work around powerlines safely in a two seat ag cat

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Autos & Vehicles

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• cropdusting
• crop
• duster
• ag
• pilot
• airplane
• spray
• plane

[thecropduster1]

I cant imagine how they have not been shut down. they've killed two students since I was there in 2006. (just google "agflight fatal crash" and read the first two articles") and it is purely an Ag-flight problem, the other schools (FTA and Eagle Vistas) haven't killed anyone and FTA has been around for close to 20 years. I'm sure your instructors are good guys, but I know from being there that Billy Howell is more worried about money then safety and that creates a dangerous ignorant attitude

[thecropduster1]

they dont teach you how to turn a loaded airplane, the last time I talked to one of their instructors 'bubba" didn't even know what the hell I meant by simulating load. did anyone pull the power back and make you fly the turns heavy? or teach you how to adjust for the changing weight? flat turns are safer when your loaded, arc turns are faster when your light. knowing the recovery procedure for a low speed condition changes with the type of turn is basic knowledge you probably didn't learn

[thecropduster1]

they don't even teach the basic crop dusting skills like how to work around cell towers, power lines and obstacles. their students are doing all that shit for the first time by themselves with no instruction to tell them how to get around the tower or under the power line. the only reason anyone goes under a power line is because its safer to go under then try and climb a heavy airplane over. knowing how to tell if you can safely fit under is easy, but if no one taught you how you'll die.

[thecropduster1]

they are failing to teach the basic stuff, stall/spin training is the heart to any good ag program. I have had to teach some of their grads who had never done a spin! stall/spin is probably the number one killer in Ag. how can you avoid it if no one ever took you up to altitude and let you become proficient at recovery? you will eventually stall in the turn, how you react is determined by your training. good training its not a problem, bad training you play lawn dart!

[thecropduster1]

Billy Howell is making all of us look like idiots. when people see dead students on the news they think crop dusting is dangerous and crop dusters are crazy. there are risks to crop dusting, it is unforgiving if you make mistakes but it is not a dangerous job if you know what you are doing. if you graduated from agflight and still feel that crop dusting is "inherently dangerous" they failed to teach you what you needed to know.

[brunoaltimino]

@thecropduster1 I wonder why you have an axe to grind against Billy Howell. Ther have been accidents, BUT, anyone in aviation knows that ag aviation is inherently dangerous. Ag Flight has been in business for a long time. I've been through the training and it is as safe as you could ask for. They worry like mother hens when students solo. If the school was as bad as you imply, the FAA would have shut them down by now.

[thecropduster1]

the links are upside down its the only way I could get youtube to post them

[thecropduster1]

five mins on the NTSB site searching for Bainbridge will back up anything I say. dont be a moron do your home work before shitty training gets you killed. theres a facebook group for "survivors"

[thecropduster1]

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[thecropduster1]

five mins on the NTSB site searching for Bainbridge will back up anything I say. dont be a moron do your home work before shitty training gets you killed. theres even a facebook group for "survivors"