miles davis 1971 paris

at newport paris: ndugu,jarrett,henderson,mtume,alias,bartz

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Music

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• miles
• davis
• electric
• 1971

[halfmonk]

in my opinion, the best group of this period is the one assembled for "live evil" with john mclaughlin, jack dejohnette, keith jarrett, airto, gary bartz and michael henderson.

[doyve06]

ive been listening to very type of genre of musis for the past 30 years,and i will definately admit miles davis has got to be my all time favourite! what a musician

[halfmonk]

@publius352 i have no idea what you're talking about but you're bordering on delusional. jarrett had no idea what miles was doing. that's clear from every interview that he gave about the miles electric period. those who are enslaved by euro-centric harmonic concepts can't hear what miles was doing because it has nothing to do with that. there is no such thing as improvisation? are you a musician? just because you don't understand it doesn't mean it doesn't exist.

[afrikan57]

@halfmonk Rite On! I co-sign everything you posit! Spot on!

[TheBaronVitelius]

Is there a video of this entire performance online somewhere? This clip cuts out just when Gary Bartz is starting to really get down. Would love to hear the rest of this cut. and Jarrett is just freakin' amazing here!!!!

[FingersPlainview]

@publius352 Yes sir. That's the tripple-truth, Ruth.

[publius352]

@halfmonk Seens its only you and I that actually knew Miles' habit(s). Jarret was and still is a revisionist due to his actual knowledge related to constructing harmonic sounds into rhythms. His ear is extremely sensitive and he is one who knows if someone actually knows and understands.  One subject you mention is basaically up for debate. African Rhythic aspect of improvised music was actually the problem: to those who know, there is no such thing as improvision. Only for those untrained.

[halfmonk]

@halfmonk. marsalis would have every innovation in jazz excluded from his revisionist history of jazz including the free period of coltrane, albert ayler, the art ensemble of chicago and the entire AACM, cecil taylor, don cherry, eric dolphy, etc. shall i go on? the list is too long to post. marsalis is, like jarret, full of shit. there is no single history of jazz. if you don't like that music then say so. it's subjective and nothing more. don't create some mythology to rationalize it.

[halfmonk]

@halfmonk. when i say THIS music, i mean the electric period miles. almost all musicians now recognize that period as one of miles' most innovative. only the curators of the museum of dead jazz like marsalis, crouch, etc.), take issue with that fact. it is because marsalis and his ilk don't get it and they have a vested interest in promoting their version of jazz history. their version which leaves them in charge as proprietors of jazz. as jack dejohnette said, "jazz is about innovation."

[halfmonk]

jarret is a revisionist. i'm not surprised. jarrett is a massive egomaniac & out of touch with reality. those who choose to denigrate this music, are judging it from the same tired paradigm of anglo-european harmony (i.e. wynton marsarlis, etc., couldn't play this and don't understand it). this music reinvigorated the african rhythmic aspect of improvised music & introduced electronic music to jazz. by his own admission, miles he was addicted to coke during this time which is why he burned out.

[publius352]

@halfmonk Yes, you name some very talented musicians. I, however, kind of agree with Keith Jarrett when he says that this music was actually causing Miles to be chronically ill. There was music, like narrative ballads, harmonies that he refused to play as his then rock-band rhythm sections just had no technical talents. Jarrett tried his best to help Miles but this genre caused Miles to lose both his sound and ear. I also, refused to listen to most jazz in this era. Made no sense.

[Zappatero]

@CAWTEXCAWTEX and Sonny Effing Fortune was smokin' on all that stuff.