@agnostikistria only because we now believe that we have to provide, through the government (which I dont understand when we could do it ourselves alot better) their whole wellbeing of heatlhcare money etc
@gosenica44 All i am saying is that although your country was better under socialism, there are greater heights that you can reach while with capitalism.
@gosenica44 CApitalism and socialism ( i am an avowed capitalist and always will be0 can only work if the people who run them are honest moral people. I do not know you I do not claim to pass moral judgment on you. I am saying that if you get people who are honest and who do care abot their neighbors, with capitalism you will get a nation that has some of the hardest working people on the planet. I dont know your religious beliefs but take a lok at the jews leaving egypt in Exodus.
@AntiFascist2011 ...must be destroyed.He said that people should put proletarian consience and class struggle before national and religious consience. It's true that every government in Greece was corrupt since 19th century(except Kapodistrias but he was murdered)and the country has been exploited under the "protection" of GB and USA.We need independance to save ourselves but this is not possible until we get productive.
@AntiFascist2011 Greece never had socialism!Once had social democracy and then all capitalism.Under communism,all our production resources would be OURS not the investors' or bankers'.If you read the Communist Manifesto truly,you would know that communism is stateless so it can't be similar to fascism and North Korea isn't communistic in fact(army and king rules that country,there are no kings and armies in a communistic society)Marx didn't say that nations and religions...
@gosenica44 Here in the UK we have the Labour party which was founded as a Christian Socialist party opposed to Marxism/Communism. Christian Labour governments gave us the NHS (National Health Service) which is free healthcare, free education and improved worker conditions. There are many different political and economic ideologies. Socialissm, Social Democracy, Christian Democracy, Liberal Democracy, Social Market, etc. Communism is too similar to Fascism.
@gosenica44 Well to be honest, there is a difference between Socialism and Communism. I've read the Communist Manifesto. It says that all nations and religions must be destroyed and that everything must be Communist. There are however various forms of Socialism including the one in former Yugoslavia. From what I've read, almost every Greek government since WW2 was Socialist and corrupt. Maybe Yugoslavia had a better form of Socialism.
@AntiFascist2011 hey my country died becouse of capitalism it was sometiesm known as Yugoslavia,it was a socialist state and everything was way better than it is now
@agnostikistria and because there are evil men runnning this country. Infront of and behind the scenes
TheHistory1776 23 hours ago
@agnostikistria only because we now believe that we have to provide, through the government (which I dont understand when we could do it ourselves alot better) their whole wellbeing of heatlhcare money etc
TheHistory1776 23 hours ago
@gosenica44 All i am saying is that although your country was better under socialism, there are greater heights that you can reach while with capitalism.
TheHistory1776 23 hours ago
@gosenica44 CApitalism and socialism ( i am an avowed capitalist and always will be0 can only work if the people who run them are honest moral people. I do not know you I do not claim to pass moral judgment on you. I am saying that if you get people who are honest and who do care abot their neighbors, with capitalism you will get a nation that has some of the hardest working people on the planet. I dont know your religious beliefs but take a lok at the jews leaving egypt in Exodus.
TheHistory1776 23 hours ago
@TheHistory1776 You miss the fact that US is Number one in debt list but destroys other countries to survive(Afghanistan,Iraq etc)
agnostikistria 1 day ago
@AntiFascist2011 ...must be destroyed.He said that people should put proletarian consience and class struggle before national and religious consience. It's true that every government in Greece was corrupt since 19th century(except Kapodistrias but he was murdered)and the country has been exploited under the "protection" of GB and USA.We need independance to save ourselves but this is not possible until we get productive.
agnostikistria 1 day ago
@AntiFascist2011 Greece never had socialism!Once had social democracy and then all capitalism.Under communism,all our production resources would be OURS not the investors' or bankers'.If you read the Communist Manifesto truly,you would know that communism is stateless so it can't be similar to fascism and North Korea isn't communistic in fact(army and king rules that country,there are no kings and armies in a communistic society)Marx didn't say that nations and religions...
agnostikistria 1 day ago
@gosenica44 Here in the UK we have the Labour party which was founded as a Christian Socialist party opposed to Marxism/Communism. Christian Labour governments gave us the NHS (National Health Service) which is free healthcare, free education and improved worker conditions. There are many different political and economic ideologies. Socialissm, Social Democracy, Christian Democracy, Liberal Democracy, Social Market, etc. Communism is too similar to Fascism.
AntiFascist2011 1 day ago
@gosenica44 Well to be honest, there is a difference between Socialism and Communism. I've read the Communist Manifesto. It says that all nations and religions must be destroyed and that everything must be Communist. There are however various forms of Socialism including the one in former Yugoslavia. From what I've read, almost every Greek government since WW2 was Socialist and corrupt. Maybe Yugoslavia had a better form of Socialism.
AntiFascist2011 1 day ago
@AntiFascist2011 hey my country died becouse of capitalism it was sometiesm known as Yugoslavia,it was a socialist state and everything was way better than it is now
gosenica44 2 days ago