Argentina:Ahora o Nunca - Part One (5 of 12)

a documentary on the Argentine crisis of 2001

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News & Politics

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• Argentina
• documentary
• crisis
• 2001

[runner354]

This is yet another reason why Argentina will never reach its potential as a great economic power.

This "documentary" is but another tirade of blaming everything imaginable for the crisis of 2001-2 instead of analyzing the structural problems within the argentine governemntal system which made these crisis' possible.

I'm sick and tired of this socialist bullshit that it was the fault of the IMF and all the foreigners when the true fault lies within the Argentine system and Juan Peron.

[highwired77]

For god's sake watch the whole thing before you make a silly comment like this. Part two goes into great detail regarding the Peronists and the power structure in Argentina (along with the resistance).

And if you happen to believe that the IMF didn't play a significant role, well then there really isn't anything to say. You have no clue. -bh

[highwired77]

thanks.

the entire 2 part/ 2 hours of the doc is here, divided into smaller segments.

[canallastones]

le dio una mano importantisima al recibirlos despues de la segunda guerra mundial apoyo a los genocidios y a los dictadores en europa

la historia e ideologias peronistan se contradicen

quienes son los peronistas

los k los rodriguez saa los menem

todos dicen ser pero a su vez todos se contradicen

basta del siglo xx

ni nazis ni imperialistas ni comunismo ni anarquismo ni peronistas ni radicalistas ni militares

son todos =

unos hijos de putas ladrones corruptos coimeros garcas

[kuernodechivo]

What Corrupt politicians..?

I am glad we are above that here in the states.

The 15 percent deal looks an awful lot like our Bail-Out Bull$#!+

[7boon]

Coming soon to the USA...

[Fieldhouse11]

fantastico este video no !!!!!!

[runner354]

Furthermore, there may be many economic models out there, but there is only one out there that actually works: the private sector generates wealth, and the government serves to protect the market integrity and the safety of its citizens. When the government excessively enters the market, everything falls apart and chaos ensues.

No socialist, quasi socialist or communist government can be named as a "success story". They either collapsed or compromised their own ideals.

[runner354]

Your doc is not unbiased sir. It clearly places a disproportionate amount of blame on the IMF and the industrialized nations when the fault was HERE. The IMF, like any bank, has a set of rules as a condition for loans. Argentina has a bad habit of placing law before politics and this didn't fly. Rules are Rules.

The fault lies with the notion that the government has to 'redistribute" wealth when it should be creating a stable economic/pol. market for the private sector to generate employment.

[highwired77]

I don't have the time nor energy to dispute sophomoric cliches of "socialist bullshit" and left-wing bias. In both parts of the doc it is explained how the crisis developed both internally and externally and the related structural problems. Just want to comment on the absurd notion that there is one set of rules in economic development and global capitalism. There are just about as many models as there are countries. Those interested can see John Gray's "False Dawn" to get a very good account.

[Loxleiev]

facho de mierda, anda a tu country puto gorila sorete del orto, andate a vivir a usa chupaculos ignorante, hay q colgarte en plaza de mayo hijo de mil puta, PERON NOS DIO LA INDUSTRIA, NOS DIO EL PETROLEO, NOS DIO EL TRABAJO! C.S.M NOS QUITO TODO ESO, SI NOS INTEGRAMOS AL MERCADO MUNDIAL NOS COGEN DE NUEVO COMO EN EL 2001, IGNORANTE, TE VOY A BUSCAR Y TE VOY A MATAR, HIJO DE MIL PUTA!

LLORAS POR LO QUE CAUSASTE IMBECIL!1RO VOTAS PARA QUE PASE Y CUANDO PASA TE QUEJAS?!HIPOCRITA DE MIERDA!

[runner354]

The documentary had a great assortment of left-wing 'scholars'. So im sure people got a real un-biased view on what happened here.

I cry for what happened in 2001-2. But to have it never happen again we need to play by the same rules as everyone else and stop blaming things like neo-liberalism, the U.S., capitalism and the such.

We have so much potential but continue to be fooled by this leftist nonsense which continues to hold us back. Moderate, global-integration is the only way out of this

[runner354]

I saw part two and it was IMF IMF bad bad bad.

Nobody forced Argentina to take the IMF loans. They get the money by meeting the conditions just like any bank would do. This is how things work.

Now we are seeing the "change" in Argentina and the old problems are creeping up again: inflation, higher risk for investment, and debt payments. Yet this time there is no IMF to blame. As an Argentine I hope we will see the light and accept to play by the same rules as the rest of the world.