@Muhammad2183 The broken stone has been set in silver and looks exaclty like a giant fanny. It is circled by all the pilgrims and if possible fondled and kissed. Pagan Islam left plenty of evidence behind I'm not making stuff up. Watch the doctoral film I posted, then try arguing. "Research some more with an open mind". What you mean like you whose mind is so open all logic and reason has fallen out in favour of a totaly unsubstantiated dark age giant invisible fairy story character... lol
@Muhammad2183 "...scientific evidences arent always truth." Sorry but yes it is. Evidence proves a theory. Ie take gravity for example, gravity is not in question, it's cause is. The 1st stage is a hypothesis which is tested, if the test is positive you have a theory. Theories are tested to destruction to see if there is any ohter cause. When all tests are postive you have a fact. Certainty is a big word in science, so when they decalare it, as in the case of evolution, they mean absolute fact.
@Muhammad2183 "You are denying..." What's to deny ???? Something that creates something else so it can be worshipped is thoroughly narcissistic. There is nothing scientific in the quran that was not common knowledge a long time before it was written. If Muhammed existed then why are there no contemporary records on such a mover and shaker. Only facts leave evidence, fiction does not. Sure and Puff the magic dragon is in the hearts of kids who hear the story. LIke does not = real or fact.
@Valthepixie Islam is not pagan at all. The pilgrimage to mecca is the reenactment of the sacrifices Abraham made for his Lord. Study about Abraham and thats what the pilgrimage is about. The black stone isnt circled and worshipped. It is respected out of the love for the people who respected it. Im sorry that you have such a dirty mind that you brought that up. You should research some more with an open mind and see what its all about.
@Valthepixie "you people"? isnt that a little harsh. Also scientific evidences arent always truth. You can see how many times science has changed in the past. You are worshipping science. Thats the truth. Science changes.
@Valthepixie You are denying the existence of human beings sent by God to give mankind the messenge to worship none but He? No scientific evidence my backside!! There is so much evidence. The ahadith are the sayings of the Prophet. The Prophet's masjid is still here. The Prophet's house is still preserved. The Prophet's clothes,turban,sandals are still here and preserved. His ways are followed by millions of people. His example is in the hearts of muslims. And you say he doesnt exist?!?!?
@Muhammad2183 "Dont you know that America was built by the labor of Black slaves?" Only in South America, the north didn't have slavery. And actually America was not an empty country the Christian immigrants committed genocide on the original Americans. That's religion for you, evil, vile and disgusting.
@Muhammad2183 Islam is pagan, if you don't believe me what is Mecca all about? Your once in a life time pilgramage to circle a broken rock trimed in silver and shaped into a giant vagina. ;)
@Muhammad2183 No actually predestination is an imposibility because we have free will. Judasism, Chrisitanity and Islam can be traced back to it's pagan origins, and has zero evidence for its outragous claims. You have no idea how stupid, uneducated and visious you people sound when you make such false and impossible claims. Then you wonder why people start attacking back. It's a war against dark age ignorance. I know for a fact it is false, so drop the evangelising crap.
@Muhammad2183 What other people do is not your concern. You on the other hand claim the moral high ground. But on examination you practice slavery, beat your women, and murder your daughters and if you could, everyone who dose not believe the same as you. So you don't have any moral high ground but the complete opposite. Knowing right from wrong is what makes us human beings, ie humane. I do help them, by attacking slavery, inequality and brutality everywhere I see it.
@Muhammad2183 The broken stone has been set in silver and looks exaclty like a giant fanny. It is circled by all the pilgrims and if possible fondled and kissed. Pagan Islam left plenty of evidence behind I'm not making stuff up. Watch the doctoral film I posted, then try arguing. "Research some more with an open mind". What you mean like you whose mind is so open all logic and reason has fallen out in favour of a totaly unsubstantiated dark age giant invisible fairy story character... lol
Valthepixie 3 months ago
@Muhammad2183 "...scientific evidences arent always truth." Sorry but yes it is. Evidence proves a theory. Ie take gravity for example, gravity is not in question, it's cause is. The 1st stage is a hypothesis which is tested, if the test is positive you have a theory. Theories are tested to destruction to see if there is any ohter cause. When all tests are postive you have a fact. Certainty is a big word in science, so when they decalare it, as in the case of evolution, they mean absolute fact.
Valthepixie 3 months ago
@Muhammad2183 "You are denying..." What's to deny ???? Something that creates something else so it can be worshipped is thoroughly narcissistic. There is nothing scientific in the quran that was not common knowledge a long time before it was written. If Muhammed existed then why are there no contemporary records on such a mover and shaker. Only facts leave evidence, fiction does not. Sure and Puff the magic dragon is in the hearts of kids who hear the story. LIke does not = real or fact.
Valthepixie 3 months ago
@Valthepixie Islam is not pagan at all. The pilgrimage to mecca is the reenactment of the sacrifices Abraham made for his Lord. Study about Abraham and thats what the pilgrimage is about. The black stone isnt circled and worshipped. It is respected out of the love for the people who respected it. Im sorry that you have such a dirty mind that you brought that up. You should research some more with an open mind and see what its all about.
Muhammad2183 3 months ago
@Valthepixie "you people"? isnt that a little harsh. Also scientific evidences arent always truth. You can see how many times science has changed in the past. You are worshipping science. Thats the truth. Science changes.
Muhammad2183 3 months ago
@Valthepixie You are denying the existence of human beings sent by God to give mankind the messenge to worship none but He? No scientific evidence my backside!! There is so much evidence. The ahadith are the sayings of the Prophet. The Prophet's masjid is still here. The Prophet's house is still preserved. The Prophet's clothes,turban,sandals are still here and preserved. His ways are followed by millions of people. His example is in the hearts of muslims. And you say he doesnt exist?!?!?
Muhammad2183 3 months ago
@Muhammad2183 "Dont you know that America was built by the labor of Black slaves?" Only in South America, the north didn't have slavery. And actually America was not an empty country the Christian immigrants committed genocide on the original Americans. That's religion for you, evil, vile and disgusting.
Valthepixie 3 months ago
@Muhammad2183 Islam is pagan, if you don't believe me what is Mecca all about? Your once in a life time pilgramage to circle a broken rock trimed in silver and shaped into a giant vagina. ;)
Valthepixie 3 months ago
@Muhammad2183 No actually predestination is an imposibility because we have free will. Judasism, Chrisitanity and Islam can be traced back to it's pagan origins, and has zero evidence for its outragous claims. You have no idea how stupid, uneducated and visious you people sound when you make such false and impossible claims. Then you wonder why people start attacking back. It's a war against dark age ignorance. I know for a fact it is false, so drop the evangelising crap.
Valthepixie 3 months ago
@Muhammad2183 What other people do is not your concern. You on the other hand claim the moral high ground. But on examination you practice slavery, beat your women, and murder your daughters and if you could, everyone who dose not believe the same as you. So you don't have any moral high ground but the complete opposite. Knowing right from wrong is what makes us human beings, ie humane. I do help them, by attacking slavery, inequality and brutality everywhere I see it.
Valthepixie 3 months ago