@asorlonnn You're babble is off topic. Whatever you're trying to make faith into you're welcome to it, but don't you tell me that my definition of faith is completely outside of religious context - it's not. Believing in something despite lack of evidence or evidence to the contrary even, that is NOT in accordance with reason. That is all I said. If you want to call such a thing a virtue, then good luck to you.
I Just got a good thought Of what YOu said on Virtue, First example was courgage you dont want to charge in to battle because this could be wrath You dont want to flee because that is shy of courage NEither excessive neither defective JUSTICE IS THE VIRTUE JUSTICE IS PERFECT BALANCE in the Creed Of MAzdaism Justice is very important We can Apply Justice in everything, Justice Is the golden Rule Love thy Neighbor
What I meant by faith was clear, don't try to redefine faith as a way of life. Faith is the willingness to accept things unseen, a virtue which states it is good to accept something even if contradictory evidence. Don't tell me I know nothing of philosophy, I could argue you into the ground.
@khanbhai7860 Don't ask me what I know, then assume I know nothing, then say I need to read to understand it, then say I need to be a graduate in it to comment on it. Reading about and being a graduate of something are two different things, it seems you can't tell the difference.
When I tell you you have given little thought on something, I elaborate on what it is, clearly you don't find this to be an important move.
Don't be condescending and end with a "god bless you", that's just low.
@AR333 what do you know about Islamic philosophy to put these claims. What books have you read to even understand it?
I cant be a Doctor or a Scientist without really gettin the proper knowledge to be one...now can I? and if I try to say something about XYZ disease and how it can be cured...wouldnt it tottttally Oxymoron claim to make....as you say about Islamic philosophy...I suggest you get better understandin of things 1st, then we shell talk. God bless you my brother in humanity
@AR333 no you dont! you fail to understand the very basics of its philosophy altogether. it doesnt only SUPPOSE; it is compatibile between FAITH (the way of life) and "the knowledge of existence, values, reason, mind, languages, morality, rights of my fellow kinsmen and alot more, as i mentioned before...
2nd point-- I am talkin abt MY perspective. HOWEVER, however your being Intellectually dishonest, when you put a claim on someones else perspective, WITHOUT INDEPTH understanding.
@khanbhai I know what Islamic philosophy is, but it makes the same mistake that for example "Christian Science" does, it supposes that faith and reason are compatible.
All I've been trying to argue is that reason (philosophy) is not compatible with faith (religion). To say they go together is to twist their definitions.
So when one says "religious philosophy" it is an oxymoron, because philosophy is not proper if it says "our axioms are that which are revealed in this holy text". That's faith.
@AR333 You can teach me English later. Lets talk in more clear terms; so you understand my perspective a lil clear.
You say, "Philosophy however doesn't see revelation as a satisfactory way of arriving at truth."
And I am telling you that Islamic philosophy, however only sees "Revelation" as a sastisfactory way of arriving at the ultimate truth....The complete way of life; the knowledge of existence, values, reason, mind, languages, morality, rights of my fellow kinsmen and alot more....
Thank you very much for your videos, very helpful.
0386230 1 month ago
@asorlonnn You're babble is off topic. Whatever you're trying to make faith into you're welcome to it, but don't you tell me that my definition of faith is completely outside of religious context - it's not. Believing in something despite lack of evidence or evidence to the contrary even, that is NOT in accordance with reason. That is all I said. If you want to call such a thing a virtue, then good luck to you.
AR333 1 year ago
asorlonnn 1 year ago
@AR333
Faith Can be interperted in many levels
Faith Is a Virtue
(Good quality Trait)
Faith Is something in One's Mind This could be like a divine Spark
Faith steadfast in one's belief with faith in God Your Perception and destiny should be different with true Faith
Your thoughts Words and Action, are of goodness and purity
Faith In the future Never worry
Many virtues exsist
best to never bend knowledge is my suggestion
asorlonnn 1 year ago
And by the way, your definition of faith is off.
What I meant by faith was clear, don't try to redefine faith as a way of life. Faith is the willingness to accept things unseen, a virtue which states it is good to accept something even if contradictory evidence. Don't tell me I know nothing of philosophy, I could argue you into the ground.
AR333 1 year ago
@khanbhai7860 Don't ask me what I know, then assume I know nothing, then say I need to read to understand it, then say I need to be a graduate in it to comment on it. Reading about and being a graduate of something are two different things, it seems you can't tell the difference.
When I tell you you have given little thought on something, I elaborate on what it is, clearly you don't find this to be an important move.
Don't be condescending and end with a "god bless you", that's just low.
AR333 1 year ago
@AR333 what do you know about Islamic philosophy to put these claims. What books have you read to even understand it?
I cant be a Doctor or a Scientist without really gettin the proper knowledge to be one...now can I? and if I try to say something about XYZ disease and how it can be cured...wouldnt it tottttally Oxymoron claim to make....as you say about Islamic philosophy...I suggest you get better understandin of things 1st, then we shell talk. God bless you my brother in humanity
khanbhai7860 1 year ago
@AR333 no you dont! you fail to understand the very basics of its philosophy altogether. it doesnt only SUPPOSE; it is compatibile between FAITH (the way of life) and "the knowledge of existence, values, reason, mind, languages, morality, rights of my fellow kinsmen and alot more, as i mentioned before...
2nd point-- I am talkin abt MY perspective. HOWEVER, however your being Intellectually dishonest, when you put a claim on someones else perspective, WITHOUT INDEPTH understanding.
khanbhai7860 1 year ago
@khanbhai I know what Islamic philosophy is, but it makes the same mistake that for example "Christian Science" does, it supposes that faith and reason are compatible.
All I've been trying to argue is that reason (philosophy) is not compatible with faith (religion). To say they go together is to twist their definitions.
So when one says "religious philosophy" it is an oxymoron, because philosophy is not proper if it says "our axioms are that which are revealed in this holy text". That's faith.
AR333 1 year ago
@AR333 You can teach me English later. Lets talk in more clear terms; so you understand my perspective a lil clear.
You say, "Philosophy however doesn't see revelation as a satisfactory way of arriving at truth."
And I am telling you that Islamic philosophy, however only sees "Revelation" as a sastisfactory way of arriving at the ultimate truth....The complete way of life; the knowledge of existence, values, reason, mind, languages, morality, rights of my fellow kinsmen and alot more....
khanbhai7860 1 year ago