corruption is why we win

Syriana clip...one of my favorites.

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• Syriana
• corruption
• US

[hoodwinkedfool]

hey you two, shut up

[weaponsargent]

CORRUPTION IS WHY WE WIN!!!

[jerryvalez]

@bumshka21 This will be my last post on this, because we could go back and forth forever, but I believe the point of my original post, that not only is corruption not why we win but the US is COMPARATIVELY one of the least corrupt countries, is still correct. Any "winning" done by America is because it has smart, creative, hardworking people, not because of government corruption. Though if you believe the American, or "Western", way of life is itself corrupt, than yes, the US is corrupt

[bumshka21]

@jerryvalez

For 2. Ah. A specific study. Thank you. Its a moot point.

For 3. Hehe. The rule of law and Russia... Too easy of a joke.

For 1. You're confused. Debt ceiling being raised is one thing. I meant S&P's downgrading of the rating. Monday confirmed the opposite to your suggestion: many are unsure the US can balance its books.

As for corruption et US, I'd say the absence of state funding in campaigns means doing the right thing gets relegated to donations & looking to Nov..

[jerryvalez]

@bumshka21 1. The debt ceiling was raised, so the creditors will be paid. Also, political risk to capital is more broad then sovereign debt repayment, ie. risk of nationalization of industries, risk of bribes being demanded to do business ect. All of these risks are low here.

2. Transparency Int. has chapters in over 70 countries

3. Not true. The letter of the law in Russia says anyone can support anyone politically, but see Mikhail Khodorkovsky. Tatics like this are used in China as well

[bumshka21]

@jerryvalez 'No political risk' just became obsolete as of the last week with the debt ceiling issue...

I mean, you can't give a study as a reference when the study is likely based in the West... its inherently biased.

In terms of corruption, your comparisons on Russia/China jailing has nothing to do with corruption. If the government is doing it then there likely aren't 'laws against it'.

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[jerryvalez]

corruption is not why we win. the US is one of the least corrupt countries on earth, at least compared to the alternatives. i can sense you smirking, but out courts work fairly and there is rule of law. on various corruption gauges the US always scores well. one of the reasons the world flocks to T bills is that there is no political risks to their capital. the government cant just jail its opponents, like what happens all the time in Russia and China. there is some, but its comparatively low

[HomleandSecurity]

@Mike32587 Go back to Russia

[Mike32587]

@proadmin1 You have some very thought provoking comments here. In my opinion, the ultimate blame lies with those in Congress who shredded regulation of the derivative market during the 90's and created a modern tulip mania. Unfettered capitalism is driven by a winner take all mentality. It's the role of government to make sure the music doesn't play until there is only one chair left to use that musical chairs metaphor. Oh i can already hear the pundits yelling "Socialist!"

[Faralakaboom]

he sure is an ugly little fcker!

[Magnolia296]

I like this film - it shows sad and bitter truth in our political life. George Clooney always showed one and the same typical acting but Finally he looked great and not monotonous. But I still think that he didn't deserve the Oscar - just because he showed nice serious acting (for the first time by the way) doesn't mean that they should give him the Oscar. Academics and critics are as corrupted as politicians. Sad, very sad but I still love this film very much

[AHafan1]

It's great that he yells it in the middle of all these people... it symbolises that what he's saying isn't a secret - everyone knows it, even if they aren't bold enough to say or admit it