in English see below
Nyitrageszte Luca napi hiedelmek és mese, mondja Margit néni
Margit néni előadásában nem tudhatjuk, hogy mese volt-e vagy valóság az, hogy a falubeli menyecskét, aki Luca napján is fonni mert csak az esze mentette meg attól, hogy "elvigye a Luca".
Az előadás jó példa arra, hogy mennyire keveredtek a hiedelmek a valósággal.
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Title: 234 Nyitrageszte Folklore Beliefs & Stories of "Luca Day"
Within Ms. Margit's interview, we cannot determine if it was merely a story or reality that the village maid (young woman) who dared to spin (yarn) might have been saved only by her [quick/clever] mind from "being taken by Luca." This video interview is a good example of how folktales & superstition were intertwined with reality.
DIALOGUE:
Q: During Luca Day, how did they consider Luca?... as what?
A: Well, they considered Luca so witchlike -- they didn't consider her a saint, though it is "St. Luca," that's how we call her -- and she was so witchlike that on Luca Day neither sewing was permitted (lest the asses of chickens be sewn up) nor yarn spinning, as Luca did not like that; so then we would rather do just a little house-cleaning or similar type of work. But, that [custom] also slowly ceased.
I had a little neighbor lady and she would always command me not to try to spin yarn, "because Luca will come for you and take you away."
So I'd say, "How would Luca come for me?"
Just like once with a maid (young woman) who would not obey. They told her not to spin yarn, because Luca would take her away. But what?... she wasn't afraid of Luca and she hurriedly spun so as to finish by Christmas... and she spun and spun, singing to herself, not even knowing the hour (because they had no clocks back then), and time flew by easily. Only, once, a maid (young woman) with a bun in her hair appeared with a large basket full with spindles, saying to her, "Well, since you're extremely handy [talented], so handy that you must spin yarn even today, then spin yarn for these spindles. Spin yarn for every single spindle... because if you don't, then I'll come for you at 1:00 o'clock and take you away!" And, with that, she quickly hurried out.
The maid (young woman) thought about what she should do. Would she [Luca] really take her away? Because she had never spun this much, it occurred to her that she would spin just a little yarn for each spindle, so that, while she would not cover it completely, she would still spin yarn for each one.
Well, for sure, Luca arrived at 1:00 o'clock, dressed up as a maid (young woman), herself. "Oh, indeed, you're very clever... Did you weave for all of the spindles?"
"I did, I did... I spun for each one. You told me to spin yarn for each and every one, and so I did spin."
Well, this is what Luca told her; she told her, "You are talented but you are also clever/smart; you outsmarted my mind. But, if you should continue to weave in the future this day [13th Dec], as well, you will not fool me again, and I will take you away!"
And, as Luca turned away, the maiden was not yet frightened, thinking that someone was playing a trick on her. But, upon seeing Luca's horse legs, such a tremendous fear enveloped her that she nearly died of fright and never again did she spin/weave on Luca Day.
And, so it was, that on Luca Day, the little elderly lady always told this story... and she really did believe it. And, well, my mother said that we must treasure this legacy... and so we do not spin yarn on Luca Day.
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The Italian name "Lucia" refers to "light." The Hungarian Folklore/Folktales were familiar with a duality in Luca: (1) the beneficent, (2) related to witchery.
Similarly, during the time before the adoption of Christianity, the concept of dark vs. light was also related to the introduction of the Gregorian calendar (post Julian), coming into use on October 4, 1582. Prior to our use of the Gregorian calendar, this day was the darkest day of the year, after which time "light" (lux) began to grow.
Another historical reference:
While the reverence of St. Lucia was strongest in Italy, reverence of the "demonic" side of Lucia was also familiar to Hungary, Transsylvania, Slovenia, Slovakia, Austria.
It is interesting to note that Hungarian Folktales also treasured and safeguarded the image of Luca as a concept of the struggle between the forces of good and evil. (Just a few villages away [from Nyitrageszte] in Ledec, Luca was regarded in a positive, beneficent light.
Translation: Gabriella Tomanovits
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very good thanks
its true even in other countires
beforefajr 3 years ago