Waltz with Bashir - Dreams sequence

Dream sequence and the connection between the massacre and "the camps" during the Holocaust

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[Diala80]

@sudsy123 I would have agreed if the movie was based only n the personal experience of this veteran. But its not. The movie is a result of an inquiry and a persistent search for the truth by an experienced journalist. It even illustrates real photos of the massacre which gives a sense of documenting the event. Hence the need for accuracy.

[NonstopPig]

The Phalangists did kill without discretion in the end, though, and the PLO was not uprooted.

[NonstopPig]

This is true. However, as underhanded and negligent an action as it was, it was intended as part of an initiative for the Lebanese to regain control of their nation. It was true that at least 200 PLO terrorists who had avoided the evacuation of Beirut were living among the many civilians at Sabra and Shatila, with generous reserves of ammunition. The PLO seemed most likely to have been the assassins at the time, and either way their presence in Lebanon would prolong the war.

[NonstopPig]

@Diala80 This is true. However, as underhanded and negligent an action as it was, it was intended as part of an initiative for the Lebanese to regain control of their nation. It was true that at least 200 PLO terrorists who had avoided the evacuation of Beirut were living among the many civilians at Sabra and Shatila, with generous reserves of ammunition. The PLO seemed most likely to have been the assassins at the time, and either way their presence in Lebanon would prolong the war.

[NonstopPig]

This movie is not about Sabra and Shatila solely (though it is an integral part of it). If you follow through on it, the primary source of the information in this film was interviews with ex-soldiers from the Lebanon War. It is about the memories of these soldiers and how they cope; the connection between emotion and memory is called upon in this movie, as is explored in the dream sequences.

[Diala80]

@sudsy123 It's true that the movie, which is a fantastic piece of art in my opinion, is reflecting a subjective perspective of an Israeli soldier. But it is the first Israeli movie to document in a way or another the massacre of Sabra and Shatila. The director also used real photos from the masacre to give his movie a sense of reality and documentation. Saying that, it is of the director duty not to promote for illusional facts that he believed in when he was a soldier.

[sudsy123]

@Diala80 While this certainly may be true (I am a huge fan of Fisk's work), the film was based solely on the personal experience of the director, and as such having that information included wouldn't make much sense from the perspective of the film

[Diala80]

According to Robert Fisk in his book "The Great War for Civilisation: The Conquest of the Middle East", pp.484,488–489, Israeli defence minister at that time Ariel Sharon and Chief of Staff Rafael Eitan met with the Lebanese Phalangist militia units, inviting them to enter the Sabra and Shatila refugee camps and telling them the PLO fighters were responsible for the assassination of their leader Bashir Gemayel. This is the core information that was neglected/distorted in this movie.