A Brief Introduction to Nihilism

Music by Type O Negative, "(We Were) Electrocute"

Category:

Education

Tags:

• nihilism
• existentialism
• nietzsche
• anarchism

[Hoobifta]

Be the nihilist!

[Hoobifta]

The point is the corruption of faith, the mystifying fantasy that tells you what you want to hear. Nihilism is against that (mysteriously solipsism tells you what you don't want to hear, it wants you to believe in it blindly, & I'm a solipsist). I don't know, everything you believe is false, damn the beliefs you have before it's too late (then solipsism defends this by saying "give up what you used to believe"), I don't know what to believe in any more.

[Hoobifta]

That's what faith is: you can't learn it, if a person thinks he exists it takes faith to believe it, am I right? Tyler Durden's work is unknowable, but it's obviously threat and terrorism. That sacrifice stuff and traditional asceticism is unknowable, I kept trying to understand why it makes you happy. Don't bother, that which makes you ignorant must be abolished, don't try to understand it. To believe you exist is the worship of yourself, a faith in you (God), I start to see what's going wrong.

[Hoobifta]

How do I explain the truth? Ethics are an abomination, even the solipsism "no pain" rule (solipsism is supposed to be nihilism with a belief that you exist), the truth is solipsism is a faith: it's unlearnable, that's why it took me years to learn it intelligently when the learnable only takes one day. By the way what's wrong with solipsism? It's unlearnable!

[katnils]

@thor123422 and what has more just got to do with prejudges or assumptions from traditions like for ex. religion and isn´t for real issues about ethics unless you believe in the specific religion and that god said it and therefore something is right or wrong even if we can´t understand why.

Nihilism might be a philosophising about that we and our values don´t matter to the universe. But it just doesn´t seem productive to imply that values are meaningless. When they matter to humans.

[katnils]

@thor123422 It comes with being a social species, a mammal, to feel empathy (with the exception of sociopaths, a minority) and to be born with the ability to learn about right and wrong from upbringing and society and also the ability to reason more rationally about what has to do with real, to humans universal, ethical issues,

[katnils]

@thor123422 "I see some things as positive and others as negative, yes, but I acknowledge that my standard is arbitrary and ultimately meaningless, and that in this light I have no room to judge other standards as right or wrong."

You do judge mass murderers and tyrants as being objectively evil in their actions. You do know that some things are just plain wrong according to universal human standards.

[katnils]

@thor123422 And like that it is harmless for you to swing your finger (for all we know) but morally bad if you do shoot down 50 people? Since everything you know about reality tells you which one of these actions that is harming others.

[katnils]

@thor123422 And react to things that are just plain wrong. It would for example be absurd to just look at someone being tortured or raped and think; A well, who am I to say that my values are objective and that this person is doing something objectively wrong by harming others? So who am I to interfere and to say that this is wrong?

[katnils]

@thor123422 What seems to me to make Nihilism useless, besides not taking our own reality in account, but rather is a philosophising about that there is no values in the universe or something like that, is that it might lead to some useless everything goes attitude and no actions or ideologies can be condemned for anything at all instead of using our ability to reason about ethical issues. That is what brings progress in societies.