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Answering common objections to the intercession of the saints. Can the saints hear our prayers? Are the saints aware of what happens on earth? Do they care? Is it possible for the saints to respond to all the prayers they receive?

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  • Very Good indeed, thank you!

  • @horseman528 God's authority, however, is transmuted through His Church - not solely in the book that men in that Church wrote! Jesus' mission was to found a CHURCH that would act in His stead, until He comes again. There is only one Church, with the successor of St. Peter as its head on Earth.

    And when you misquote Holy Scripture to bend towards your arguments, you are only falling into error. You cannot use Scripture to attack the Catholic Church, because it is the Church who wrote it.

  • @drdst17 I was not going to say anymore but the authority you speak of comes from God thru the Holy Spirit. The apostles did appoint elders in churches but that does not mean that they faithfully carried out the doctrine taught them throughout the generations that followed. This falling away was foretold by Paul in 1 Tim. 4:1-3 and 2 Thess. 2:3-4. Lets see, who forbids to marry and who sits as God in the temple of God showing himself that he is God? Can you say "holy father" Enuf said.

  • @horseman528 And I believe that you are sincere in yours: however, they are misguided even if well-intentioned. Tradition is vitally important because it is TRADITION that created it in the Bible in the first place. Jesus preached orally to His disciples and we need to have an authority when interpreting Scripture lest we fall into error.

    This is why the Bible alone is insufficient - it always was and always will be as long as sinful humans attempt to apply its teachings without authority.

  • @drdst17, I'm sure you're a good person who is sincere in your beliefs. We're all pretty much products of how we were brought up to believe. I don't hate Catholics or anyone else but how can you depend on traditions that change with human whims? Traditions change with the times but God's Word is eternal. I believe the bible has all we need to know how to be saved and live a christian life. Its survived the test of time and is plain in what it says. 2 Tim. 3:16 Enuf said. Best to you.

  • @horseman528 Tyndale was NOT condemned for translating the Bible into English: that is propaganda. He was condemned for chopping up the text to fit his own Theology. Although it is unjust to burn or murder people for their beliefs, Catholics were not the only ones guilty of doing so back in the Post-Medieval era. Henry VIII and Elizabeth I being some famous killers of Catholics.

    But you are correct about only "needing" Christ to get to heaven. My point - it isn't wrong to pray to saints.

  • @drdst17 Yes, the Catholic Church did not allow anyone to read the bible in their own language for hundreds of years.  William Tyndale was the first to translate parts of it into english and he was strangled and burned at the stake somewhere outside of Brussels in 1536. Foxes Book of Martyrs contains many examples of people who were burned at the stake for not agreeing with the Catholic Church. You do not need saints to help you get to heaven. You only need Christ. Colossians 2:8-10

  • @horseman528 Yes, you are worshipping your own ego - your own Personal Jesus. And quoting scripture to USE it for your own ends IS interpreting it. You have no authority to decide what those quotes represent.

    Since the rest of your post is abject lies, I'll not respond to them. God Bless.

  • @drdst17 So I am worshipping my own ego? Your holiness, your eminence, holy father. Read 2 Thess. 2:3-4 Sounds like someone else may have an ego problem. My interpretation of the bible? I didn't interpret anything. I quoted scripture. I think the HIndus also have hundreds of deities and statues they pray to also. Your saints are replacements for the gods and goddesses the pagans once worshipped. The early apostles wouldn't even recognize what you call a church.

  • @horseman528 The "Word of God" is Jesus - the Word made flesh. Not YOUR INTERPRETATION of the Holy Bible. Mary and the Saints are united with God in Heaven. It is perfectly alright to ask them to intercede to God and Jesus on our behalf. It is also okay to pray directly to Jesus or God.

    And this belies the ENTIRE point of my posts: that Protestants usurp the teaching authority of the Church and supplant it with their own ego, their own interpretations of Holy Scripture. It is heresy.

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