@maxavail If they are logical arguments then they are required to follow the rules of logic. Not follow the rules of common sense. To portray them as logical argumet is no honest. It seems you do not care about this fact so we have nothing more to discuss
@emailpobox666 I've heard him in a debate where Dawkins was present as well, Craig admitted his arguments don't prove God but they make Him more plausible. In the end, I think that's what he tried to convey all the way.
@maxavail He claim if the premises of his argument are correct his arguments are correct. He claims that the premises are correct . Therefore....He claims the arguments are correct . The arguments he goes around the world claiming as a proof of god
@emailpobox666 I think saying he uses them as "proof of God" is simply subject to interpretation, proof of God can also mean proof of plausibility, which absolves Craig from any accusation of dishonesty.
@TruthUnadulterated WLC Continued "The idea that God caused the universe is intuitively intelligible. A cause is, loosely speaking, something which produces something else and in terms of which the thing that is produced can be explained. This notion certainly applies to God's causing the universe. If God's causing the universe cannot be analyzed in terms of current philosophical definitions of causality, then so much the worse for those theories!
@TruthUnadulterated WLC "If the claim that God caused the Big Bang cannot be analyzed in terms of extant definitions of causality, then God cannot have caused the Big Bang. I see no reason to think that this premise is true. In general, arguments to the effect that some intuitively intelligible notion can't be analyzed in terms of certain philosophical theories should make us suspect the adequacy of those theories rather than reject the common sense notion.
@TruthUnadulterated Ohh sorry that was the wrong quote. This one is Craig admitting that his faith would override actual evidence against Christianity.
@maxavail If they are logical arguments then they are required to follow the rules of logic. Not follow the rules of common sense. To portray them as logical argumet is no honest. It seems you do not care about this fact so we have nothing more to discuss
emailpobox666 5 hours ago
@emailpobox666 I've heard him in a debate where Dawkins was present as well, Craig admitted his arguments don't prove God but they make Him more plausible. In the end, I think that's what he tried to convey all the way.
maxavail 7 hours ago
@maxavail He claim if the premises of his argument are correct his arguments are correct. He claims that the premises are correct . Therefore....He claims the arguments are correct . The arguments he goes around the world claiming as a proof of god
emailpobox666 15 hours ago
@emailpobox666 I think saying he uses them as "proof of God" is simply subject to interpretation, proof of God can also mean proof of plausibility, which absolves Craig from any accusation of dishonesty.
maxavail 21 hours ago
@FreeMindedAthiest TruthUnadulterated is quiet . that's how I like the ignorant and foolish
emailpobox666 1 day ago
@emailpobox666 Yes, but there are to many simple christians out there. He can't lose. So sad.
FreeMindedAthiest 1 day ago
@FreeMindedAthiest I think it appropriate for Craig to tie his own Noose. Don't you Think?
emailpobox666 1 day ago
@TruthUnadulterated WLC Continued "The idea that God caused the universe is intuitively intelligible. A cause is, loosely speaking, something which produces something else and in terms of which the thing that is produced can be explained. This notion certainly applies to God's causing the universe. If God's causing the universe cannot be analyzed in terms of current philosophical definitions of causality, then so much the worse for those theories!
emailpobox666 1 day ago
@TruthUnadulterated WLC "If the claim that God caused the Big Bang cannot be analyzed in terms of extant definitions of causality, then God cannot have caused the Big Bang. I see no reason to think that this premise is true. In general, arguments to the effect that some intuitively intelligible notion can't be analyzed in terms of certain philosophical theories should make us suspect the adequacy of those theories rather than reject the common sense notion.
emailpobox666 1 day ago
@TruthUnadulterated Ohh sorry that was the wrong quote. This one is Craig admitting that his faith would override actual evidence against Christianity.
emailpobox666 1 day ago