Haman, the Koran and Bucaille

Looking at the claims made by Bucaille, Harun Yahya and IslamicAwareness regarding Haman, mentioned in the Koran and how they try to prove the existence of this person, his function and role using false and fabricated information.

The video shows how Bucaille lies and distorts evidence to come to his conclusion and how Muslims today are being lied to in order for them to believe what the Koran says.

Bucaille's claim: In the book Reflections on the Qur'an (Réflexions sur le Coran), I have related the result of such a consultation that dates back to a dozen years ago and led me to question a specialist who, in addition, knew well the classical Arabic language. One of the most prominent French Egyptologists, fulfilling these conditions, was kind enough to answer the question. I showed him the word "Haman" that I had copied exactly like it is written in the Qur'an, and told him that it had been extracted from a sentence of a document dating back to the 7th century AD, the sentence being related to somebody connected with Egyptian history. He said to me that, in such a case, he would see in this word the transliteration of a hieroglyphic name but, for him, undoubtedly it could not be possible that a written document of the 7th century had contained a hieroglyphic name - unknown until that time - since, in that time, the hieroglyphs had been totally forgotten. In order to confirm his deduction about the name, he advised me to consult the Dictionary of Personal Names of the New Kingdom by Ranke, where I might find the name written in hieroglyphs, as he had written before me, and the transliteration in German. I discovered all that had been presumed by the expert, and, moreover, I was stupefied to read the profession of Haman: "The Chief of the workers in the stone-quarries," exactly what could be deduced from the Qur'an, though the words of the Pharaoh suggest a master of construction. When I came again to the expert with a photocopy of the page of the Dictionary concerning "Haman" and showed him one of the pages of the Qur'an where he could read the name, he was speechless... Moreover, Ranke had noted, as a reference, a book published in 1906 by the Egyptologist Walter Wreszinski: the latter had mentioned that the name of "Haman" had been engraved on a stela kept at the Hof-Museum of Vienna (Austria). Several years later, when I was able to read the profession written in hieroglyphs on the stela, I observed that the determinative joined to the name had emphasised the importance of the intimate of Pharaoh.


Sources:

http://www.islamic-awareness.org/Quran/Contrad/External/haman.html
http://www.king-tut.org.uk/ancient-egypt/ancient-egyptian-hieroglyphics.htm
http://www.ancientegyptonline.co.uk/Gardiner-sign-list.html
http://www.rostau.org.uk/AEgyptian-L/reference/faulkner_index.html
http://static.egyptology.ru/scarcebooks/ranke/bd1-216-332(r-S).pdf
http://us2.harunyahya.com/Detail/T/EDCRFV/productId/3445/THE_WORD___HAMAN__
http://www.ancientegyptonline.co.uk/offeringformula.html
http://www.answeringislam.info/authors/katz/haman/bucaille.html
http://www.beyondbooks.com/wcu81/3b.asp
http://www.islaminstitut.de/Artikelanzeige.41+M5fff2d8c174.0.html
http://www.answering-islam.org/authors/katz/haman/app_ia_coverup.html

http://books.google.de/books?id=i6p1ULHKxPoC&lpg=PA166&ots=asbJ2dGkM6... - v=onepage&q&f=false
http://www.globalegyptianmuseum.org/detail.aspx?id=5136


Hermann Ranke, Die Ägyptischen Personennamen, Verzeichnis der Namen, Verlag Von J J Augustin in Glückstadt, Band I (1935)
Walter Wrszinski, Aegyptische Inschriften aus dem K.K. Hof Museum in Wien: J C Hinrichs'sche Buchhandlung, Leipzig, 1906
Dr. M. Bucaille, Moses and Pharaoh: The Hebrews in Egypt: 1995, NTT Mediascope Inc., Tokyo.
C. Peust, Egyptian phonology: an introduction to the phonology of a dead language, S. 54ff.
J. Osing, die Nominalbildung des Ägyptischen
A. J. Spencer, Brick Architecture In Ancient Egypt, 1979, op. cit., p. 140; B.

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[ahmrou82]

amateur christian.

[StopSpamming1]

@ahmrou82

Wrong! Try again. You get 3 in total.

[iDoctorIL]

@ StopSpamming1 One correction, Haman in the book of Ester is a figure in the Persian kingdome, not the Babylonian.

[StopSpamming1]

@iDoctorIL

Thanks for both. I'll need to check up on the Biblical Haman. Yes, I know:) I grew up with the Phar-a-oh and it's hard to ditch.

[StopSpamming1]

@iDoctorIL

OK, yes, technically you are absolutely right. I just read up on this and found that the Persians commanded a huge area from India to Ethiopia. So the reference to the Babylonian territory is more the geographical location.

[Perseveranze]

This isn't a refute, if it's meant to be then it's a horrible one. You say you sourced from this but I seriously doubt you read/understood it -

islamic-awareness . org/Quran/Contrad/External/ham­an.html

Feel sorry for anyone who brought into this amatuer made, no scholarly work, youtube vid.

[StopSpamming1]

@Perseveranze

If you would have looked at the description of this video, you would have noticed that the first reference is to the site you are directing me to - as though this were something new.

You're right, this is not just a refutation but rather a listing of facts and stupidity.

If you still believe that there are miracles in the Koran surrounding one of the Pharaohs, nobody will stop you.

The verb you are looking for is "bought", not "brought".

And if you have facts, please bring them.

[JackSparrowDepp]

@athanasiadis24 Merry Christmas as well, and get lost.

[athanasiadis24]

@JackSparrowDepp Arrogant, delusional, and stupid beyond comprehension.

I'm sure you have lots of jobs and girlfriends!

PS Merry Christmas!

[JackSparrowDepp]

@athanasiadis24 Go find yourself a job and a girlfriend, nigga.

[athanasiadis24]

@JackSparrowDepp You're sure about a great many things as I see.

[JackSparrowDepp]

@athanasiadis24 Where have you heard? Maybe when you were looking at your image at the mirror and speaking to yourself? I'm sure you are still in the elementary school nigga.

[athanasiadis24]

@JackSparrowDepp Where have I heard this clever catchphrase before?

Oh yes, the dumbass dorks during elementary school...Forgive me, it's been a long time.



[JackSparrowDepp]

@athanasiadis24 Looking at the mirror?

[athanasiadis24]

@JackSparrowDepp Adrelaline rush much?

[JackSparrowDepp]

@athanasiadis24 It appears that you cannot resist your teenage fever to keep shitting here.

[athanasiadis24]

@JackSparrowDepp It appears that fun and ingenius catchphrases continue!