English Victories against the Spanish: Part 2

Anglo-Spanish war in which Drake made a name & Spain's defeat left England in intact to raid the Spanish main & from thus which England became a player in world trade thus laid foundations of the eventual English/British empire in America & The East Indies after the Battle of Swally

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[luixFerful]

@LordGeorgeRodney That battle in which England had against the Ships of Phillip II was no more than one happy year, cause the next year the English sent a bigger naval army that was destroy by the Spaniards. There were 200 english and dutch ships and 20 000 men, 11 000 men were killed, and only 900 Spaniards died, and England enter into a bankrupt period, also that war, that is called Anglo-Spanish War , ended with the treaty of london , and it benefited spain more than england

[LordGeorgeRodney]

@luixFerful

Spain sent Armadas in 1596 & 98 & were failures..

Spain ended being bankrupt after this & had to give up the 7 provinces after Anglo Dutch victories in Holland..

[luixFerful]

@LordGeorgeRodney The battle of Cartagena de Indias the English Expedition and The War of the Jenkins Ear!

Spain always kicked the british asses until 1808, in which spain was in a war against napoleon and at the same time a civil war.

[LordGeorgeRodney]

@luixFerful

Spanish were defeated in Spanish Succession war (Gibraltar & Menorca surrendered) Quadruple Alliance war & Anglo Spanish war 1727 (Gibraltar held)

The Spanish were beaten in 1808 Cadiz was blockaded and the Spanish fleet defeated in 1805..

convoys were intercepted by RN like at Rota in 1808... Trinidad surrendered to England in Amiens treaty...

[luixFerful]

@LordGeorgeRodney Man, you should read about the Counter Armada or the English Armada 1589, in which Elizabeth sent 200 ships and 20 000 men against spain and Philip, and there were 11 000 english killed by Spaniards and only 900 Spaniards died.

Also you can read about British invasions of the Río de la Plata 1806 and 1807, in wich spain kick the british asses two times.

And what about 1710 when blaz de lezo with only a spanish frigate capture 11 british ships including the Stanhope.

[LordGeorgeRodney]

@luixFerful LOL!

The counter Armada ? Not as big as Spain's

we returned with out armada & trashed Cadiz in 1596 ..

The majority of the battles was won by the English in the end..

The war was more favourable to England.. it was not Catholic, Spain was weakened lost the protestant Netherlands (with English help) and the Spanish expedition was defeated in Ireland...

The English had established its New World and the East India company was established ergo the birth of the British empire..

[luixFerful]

@LordGeorgeRodney also, neetherlands continue beeing part of spain, and spain recover its economy in few years and kept other wars against the turkish empire and france.

[LordGeorgeRodney]

@SsKievete United Kingdom crushed Spain... 1588-1808..lol!

Remember the biggest defeat Havana 1762!

More ships surrendered 10,000 killed or captured!

And look at Gibraltar defeated 4 times in 18th century!

OUCH! 

[SsKievete]

Dude! Talk about Cartagena de Indias, or English Expedition, or The War of the Jenkins Ear!

SPAIN CRUSHED United Kingdom from 1500 to 1800. That's all.

[HerrOttoKranz]

@LordGeorgeRodney I have never said the English didn't win. It was a naval victory, yes, but without the storms it would have had a very minor impact. Also, it was a defensive victory: to say it was the beginning of the end for the Spaniards is simply false. It's not me who says it, but a serious researcher like Richard Holmes.

The Armada occupies a place in English history similar to that of the Peninsular War in ours, and patriotic exaggerations are normal. But let's not mix truths and myths.