Pre-tribulation Rapture four verses show it's false- tim sauder Mennonite

Most Mennonites know this is false doctrine. J C Wenger himself saw it as a heresy in the 40's and 50's. I was brought up hearing it as my parents believed this. However once I looked at it from scripture and history I saw it was another false doctrine come into the church to deceive. After G E Ladd of Fuller seminary wrote against it with his book "the blessed Hope" it was on its way out of the door. Now most Seminaries teach dispensationalism as a theory not a serious interpretation of scripture.

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[Kr0n1k4Lyfe]

This is just my belief, not saying its fact. But study Revelation for yourself I'm not even completely sure about Revelation its hard to understand :/

[frnz444]

@Kr0n1k4Lyfe The book of revelation has been interpreted so many different ways by so many people. It is obviously about something to do with a spiritual experience John had. End times? I am not sure. It repeats the story looking at it from various angles, such as spiritual, political, economical etc. My answer is wait and see and then we will know. I think it best to be ready at any time as we all meet the Lord in some way, death or second coming.

[Kr0n1k4Lyfe]

Luke 21:36

"Be always on the watch, and pray that you may be able to escape all that is about to happen, and that you may be able to stand before the Son of Man."

[frnz444]

@Kr0n1k4Lyfe Personally I agree with you. What if this whole seven year thing is wrong? What if the antichrist is and always has been here as John taught? What is Jesus will come sudenly anytime?

[Kr0n1k4Lyfe]

@frnz444 The rapture is both dead and alive caught up together. People think Christians face the Anti Christ and die but the only people raised before the thousand years are those that refused the Mark of the Beast and died(The first resurrection).Thats either us in the future (Post trib view) or we are raptured BEFORE this along with the dead believers (Taking up in the clouds). If "escape" in luke 21:36 is the rapture then its pretty clear, we wont be here during the anti christ OR Gods wrath

[frnz444]

@Kr0n1k4Lyfe there are saints who die during the tribulation... did they miss the rapture? I doubt it. There is a second coming not a third. Find three in the bible and I will eat the whole thing. You need to see the one on the history of the pre trib rapture doctrine.

[ChristLikeness100]

I coined a phrase this morning for all false teachings: Westianity. (I'll explain it further if anyone asks). People in countries who are living under dreadful persecution know that Western 'teachings' bring only trouble and don't want what we have here. They'd rather be peersecuted for their real faith. God bless them and keep them.

[1whoseeksthelight]

You are correct. I have wondered if the people who believe in the pre-tribulation rapture will be the catalyst for the great 'falling away' from Yahshua when it doesn't happen. Better yet, if they see a large amount of people being raptured by the Aliens/demons...to the space ships and they confuse that with 'Real Deal' and they believe they have been left behind. (Some people will never learn not to talk to strangers.)

[kittie8080]

Greetings to all the scattered tribes of Yah'sa'El (Israel). The Kingdoms of Pagan Christianity are deceived and a great many will b counted among those in the falling away when that man of sin is revealed. I will shout it from the mountain top that the Pre-Trib Rapture and the Mid Trib Rapture ARE totally, 100% FALSE !!! I will NOT Stop shouting this FACT. The nations of Yah'sa'El (Israel) will not take the short cut from out of Babylon; but they will go the long way. Just wait and see.

[SRamdhani1]

At His 2nd Coming & Resurrection ( Mat.24:29-31) in Mid Trib.(Lk.17:24-31) the righteous are caught up to meet Him in the air (1 Thes 4:15-18).The correct word for this is not Rapture but Resurrection (of the just).The last trump in 1 Cor.15:52 (KJV) does not mean the last trumpet, but the last 'blast' of the trumpet that will be sounded at the Coming of the Lord.For "trump" also means a blast of a trumpet. 31/2 yrs of Great Tribulation will follow, then Jesus returns WITH the saints in Rev. 19.

[SRamdhani1]

There are 2 visible Comings to be fulfilled. His Comings in Mat.24 & Rev.19 are NOT the same.The 2nd Coming & RESURRECTION of the Just (Mat.24:29-31) occurs "Immediately after the 1st 31/2 yrs of the Tribulation/Great Tribulation period (Daniel's 70th Week) according to Jesus in Lk.17:24-31.He says He will be Revealed IN THAT DAY when the Jews flee to the mountains in haste.That's at the Abomination of Desolation according to Him in Mat.24. That's also the Appointed Time & The End Dan.11:27-31.

[Kr0n1k4Lyfe]

@frnz444 There is a taking up in the clouds (the rapture). This is a fact of the Bible.There is the taking up in the clouds,which is not the same as Christ coming down to Earth. And there is Christs second coming when his feet actually TOUCH Earth and the 1000 years begin.At the rapture we are kept from Gods wrath and join Jesus Christ.At the second coming to Earth (AFTER Gods wrath) his feet touch Earth and the thousand years begin. And those that refuse the Mark of the Beast are raised

[Kr0n1k4Lyfe]

@frnz444 There will be Revolution when the Anti Christ forces his mark, people will be refusing it and dying for Christ instead, if the rapture isn't before this all of us will face this Mark.The saints that die during the tribulation get raised from among the dead to join Christ for the thousand years. The true born again Christians will be gone at the taking up in the clouds. These saints are pretty much left behind to face the tribulation, and they get raised from to reign for that 1000 years