The Case For Christ From Archeological & Historical Records

Lee Strobel explains the overwhelming evidence found in archaeological and historical records. Nothing has ever been found that disproves anything in the Bible and if something was found, it would be bigger than the Da Vinci Code!

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[BCPowerman]

@MaitreyaRocket Because God chooses to use the humble and not the arrogant.

[4ourty5ive]

@MaitreyaRocket NObody knows the mind or ways of God, or else He wouldn't BE God. We just know what He asks of us, thanks to His holy word, the Bible. =)

[EruditeScythian]

@Telamon28 "Finally, the governors of Syria during the lifetime of Herod are known, and there is nowhere for Quirinius to fit in until after Herod's death."

Well, the pat response I got to that one is that Herod's death was not in 4 BCE but a few years after that, i.e, 4 - 1 BCE. It's a lame attempt to make Herod's reign coincide with Quirinius' tenure in Syria.

[Telamon28]

Note: The first three sources are available online, through a simple google search. Unfortunately, Youtube doesn't seem to allow me to post the URLs, but I encourage anyone who was read my comments below to check the sources themselves, Richard Carrier's essay alone takes on and shows the fatal flaws in every attempt to reconcile the contradiction regarding Quirinius.

Again, we should examine these issues carefully, in order to make sure we are not promoting falsehoods to justify our beliefs.

[Telamon28]

Now, I'll close by saying I sincerely hope that Strobel merely does not know that the Vardaman coin is a hoax, and is not willfully lying. We should excercise caution to ensure we are not promoting hoaxes.

Sources:

The Date of the Nativity in Luke, by Richard Carrier

The Census of Quirinius and the Birth of Jesus of Nazareth, by James McGrath

Livius.org: Quirinius

The Birth of the Messiah, Raymond E. Brown

Scripting Jesus, Michael White

[Telamon28]

Finally, the governors of Syria during the lifetime of Herod are known, and there is nowhere for Quirinius to fit in until after Herod's death. This is especially clear from the records of Quirinius' own career. During Herod's reign, he was serving in other places and other offices in the Roman Empire, he was not in Syria. It is simply untrue that Luke was right and the archaeologists were wrong. We must acknowledge this contradiction, and not fall for hoaxes like Vardaman's. (sources next post)

[Telamon28]

In addition, even if the micrographic letters had been real, there is telling evidence that they could not have come from the time of Quirinius or Herod, judging by Vardaman's sketches of the coin. In his drawings of the micrographic letters, Vardaman included the letter J in words such as "Jesus." The letter J was not invented in the time of the Romans, instead they used the letter I. This is a basic mistake that any skilled archaeologist would not make. (continued in next comment, w/sources).

[Telamon28]

Historian Richard Carrier was eventually able to track down and examine the coin Vardaman found under a microscope. No micrographic letters were found. In fact, a comparison of the actual coin with Vardaman's drawings revealed that Vardaman invented many details that weren't on the coin itself, other than these imaginary micrographic letters. (continued in next comment, sources at the end).

[Telamon28]

In my reading of the Case For Christ, I found the Vardaman coin to be the most disappointing and revealing "proof" cited by Strobel. In regards to the coin, Strobel has either been misinformed or is lying outright. Vardaman claimed to find the coin, however he did not present any evidence of the coin for peer review, only drawings of the coin and alleged microletters. (continued in next comment, as I don't have enough characters).

[elinikk]

@wachnathan Circumcision of the heart - Romans 2:29.

For a prophesy try Rev. 8:10-11. In Russian "wormwood" is Chernobyl. And in 1986 there was a nuclear meltdown at Chernobyl (a great star fell) making this area of the world inhabitable and the waters "bitter".

[wachnathan]

@elinikk Forgive me but i can't make sense out of that when its clearly stated in the bible?Thats just one example and that should be enough. I have many failed prophecies that chrisitans just ignore am just saying this is a sign of ignorance that people will always make exuse to keep there faith alive knowing there is issues this is unlogical, unrational thinking for modern people. My point is stop making exuses for something that is clearly wrong a rational mind acknowledges this.

[elinikk]

@wachnathan Isaiah was speakiing not of Jerusalem, but of spiritual Zion. Circumcision is not of the flesh, but of the heart! Jesus came and we no longer need an outward sign, but an inward sign. The Pharasees from the time of Christ were circumcized in the flesh, but their heart was far from God.