Voennoe delo: Tanks - Struggle for Surviving. Part 2. (English sub)

These are two episodes from Voennoe Delo documentary describing the history and evolution of tank protection systems from their first introduction at battle field to modern ERA systems and future automated battle vehicles.

Category:

Science & Technology

Tags:

• Military
• history
• documentary
• Tank
• protection
• systems
• Soviet
• tanks
• Russian
• Tanks
• of
• T-54
• T-55
• T-64
• T-80
• T-90
• Antitank
• survival
• Features

[redreaper2020]

Just noted the video is incorrect, the first tank with a gas turbine was in fact an American tank...the T95 had one variant equipped with a Solar Saturn turbine as a proof of concept! :D

[BitnikGr]

@redreaper2020 "The first gas turbine engines used for armoured fighting vehicle GT 101 was installed in the Panther tank."

Kay, Antony, German Jet Engine and Gas Turbine Development 1930-1945, Airlife Publishing, 2002

[BitnikGr]

@redreaper2020 And actually the first MBT with gas-turbine engine, which got into mass production was a Swedish S-tank Strv103 from 1966. About 340 of them were built. But neither American Media, neither Russians disclose this fact :)

[redreaper2020]

@BitnikGr oh wow. I didn't know that.

[redreaper2020]

@BitnikGr I usually hear just a straight number per KE and HEAT since slope doesn't affect composite much. Before the 70s, we got the 100@60, 80@75, etc., though.

[redreaper2020]

@BitnikGr Most of the gulf war was long range though. He might've reasoned that If KE power drops off at range, makes sense to expend those rounds some other way. Personally, if I needed to torch a tank, a block of C4 or something similar would do it (why waste ammo shooting it anyway? We advanced almost the entire war anyway and had air superiority, no danger of capture)

I have no idea what round was used, but I'd imagine either way, whatever round it was probably could penetrate 80mm.

[redreaper2020]

@BitnikGr I'd agree with you on that. The T55, M-46/47/48/60, T-72 and M1 have proven their adaptability. The AMX30, T-62, and Leo1 haven't.

[BitnikGr]

@redreaper2020 I don't know. We don't have all details from documented sources of that event. Only such archives from that particular unit can give the answer.

Range? Round? Place of impact? Angle of impact? Without these it is not possible to say why it wasn't penetrated and if it should be penetrated.

Without these data it is just a story like many others. Like Challenger which survived 70 RPGs, like T-90S fighting in Dagestan or like Abrams killing 3 tanks in 9 seconds at full speed.

[BitnikGr]

@redreaper2020 ...

Every tank, which can be modernized over decades to deal with new threats is 100% successful design.

Bad designs usually exhaust all possibilities of modernizations very soon and goes off service. (Leopard 1 for example)

[BitnikGr]

@redreaper2020 It is second time I hear about attempt of stuck Abrams in desert, but the other guy was trying to convince me that sabot rounds were used for that. And that doesn't make sense for me. If I wanted to destroy a tank, I want to burn it, and then I would use a HEAT or ATGM for that. It is harder to set a tank on fire with APFSDS rounds, and they are more expensive!

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