Is Nikyo really an attack?

Is the infliction of discomfort part of aikido? When we use the pain of others to end on conflict, have we really practiced the art of "loving protection of all things?"

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[AikidoTubeSock]

Is Nikyo an attack? Answer: It depends. For example if you just grab someone and put it on while they passively entrust their arm to you, of course it is.

Whatever Aikido is it's still a martial art. The loving protection of all things is a quote by the same person who included Nikyo in Aikido in the first place.

As for the video; strictly as a technical point, the nages in the clip all have their elbows pointing up. My instructor would have said "this is zero"

[Kakushitoride]

@AikidoTubeSock If the intention to apply torque to the weakest part of an arm so that it causes compliance through pain is not an attack from where does the intention arise?

Does your instructor also have you trap your partner's hand as you apply the technique? Why?

Webster defines martial arts as arts of combat and self defense. Osensei: "There is no enemy for Uyeshiba of Aikido. You are mistaken if you think that budo means to have opponents and enemies and to be strong and fell them."

[paulcshearer]

My understanding of Morihei Ueshiba teachings and practices, albeit limited, is about using the minimum force and not destroying uke as part of a defense. “Not destroying” is distinctly different than not inflicting pain. That being said I really enjoyed the technique being demonstrated.

[Kakushitoride]

@paulcshearer When taken as a whole Ueshiba's teaching's about unification. Throughout it aikido is not about defeating, not besting but protection of all things, reverence for all things. Those statement are incongruent with inflicting pain and one can prove this to oneself by imagining how you feel when coerced through pain. If someone forces you to drop to your knees through pain how unified with that person do you feel? Do you feel loved? Protected? Our goal is the highest ideal of aikido.

[Kakushitoride]

@lsb6785 do itashi mashite!

[lsb6785]

@Kakushitoride domo arigato gozaimashita!

[Kakushitoride]

@lsb6785 Yes, the same with any application of force, anything that is intended to control one's partner, particularly if they that include an intention of pain compliance: (see our vid Proactive Non-resistance) Bear in mind that allowing partners to get to this stage of attack through wrists is not natural to real life aikido and transcending the limbic system charge is difficult. These vids demonstrate the attack nature of these wrist locks not a technique to win fights or power through.

[lsb6785]

So what about sankyo?

[Kakushitoride]

@maotzetof, agreed! This is the nature of our practice - to truly and literally embody the application of aikido as "the loving protection of all things" in a way that is absolutely effective. It will be fun to practice with you when you visit us in Los Angeles!!

[maotzetof]

@Kakushitoride

No, I've never been in the US for Aikido. But I will investigate :0))

I totally agree, the need of control, this feeling we have to "submit" in order to "win" , are as many "mind-walls" we must get rid off.