Inside Story - London calling to the faraway towns

As rioting spreads to other British cities, we ask if enough is being done to quell the anger.

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[zulfi223]

Will NATO bomb London now??????and throw the so called illegitimate government by arming the rioters/protesters like they did in Libya????? this is the curse of all those people around the world who are affected by British policies....including libya,iraq,afhghanistan...

[kakompo]

London 2012 Olympics.. here we come!

[annoloki]

@Peter4101 No, there's still excellent stuff being churned out there, the difference is that over time, inaccuracies in pieces that are written get discovered, flawed historical records can be dropped, and as more people study it, understanding grows, not to mention declassification/leaking of relevant documents (eg pentagon papers). We have more info out there now than ever, sifting through it takes time, but it does surface. A solid understanding is within the reach of a disciplined mind :-)

[Peter4101]

@annoloki But who rights it makes the diffrence. It could be said that were the bastereds that came up with this kind of stuff or worse. Historians these days are not as good as they used to be in my opion.

[annoloki]

@Peter4101 Look to the collapse of other large empires & how it took place to get a good indication of what we can expect. Of course, the US is the most far reaching empire ever, so it's not going to be an exact repeat, and it will coincide with the rise of China, but the more you study previous collapses, from the USSR or the British right back to the Romans and even before, the more you see the pattern and recognise what's happening right now. We live in interesting times! History's happening!

[annoloki]

@Peter4101 The USA in moving towards collapse, absolutely, but you may get by without civil war as the federal government disintegrates and leaves the states in charge of themselves, creating new currencies (already seen in some places) and perhaps new unions with likeminded states. This will be painful, all over the world, but the result will be a much better place to live. You'll even get greater choice of politicians out of it! No more two party dictatorship like the former united states.

[Peter4101]

@annoloki Tell me about it. The whole world has been currupted. I can bairly even walk down the street now without hearing about it were i live. Its a fool hearted desision just to stand by when your so close to the sorce and not do anything. But knowing they also hold the trump cards dosen't help eather. The US is done. There is no more freedom left but what i can see in people hearts. Evenualy it will only be a matter of time before it ends up in civil war. Witch is what they want.

[annoloki]

@Peter4101 Obviously not everyone agrees with this way of doing things, we do spawn violent people, and a lot of this country has made calls to violence over the actions of these rioters... it's up to the rest of us to fight to try and preserve our society from these kneejerk reactions that once made, we cannot go back from. We don't always win, we have lost some ground, particularly after 9/11 due to US influencing our politicians (or completely buying them, like Blair!) but we don't like this

[annoloki]

@Peter4101 It's hard to really put much of this in such small posts! But basically, we want to set our own standards of our society, where we don't lower them just because we're facing a threat or because some individual has lowered their own, this with these riots... we accept that sometimes we're going to suffer losses, and we just deal with it, but not by changing who we are. I've probably seen armed police once or twice in my life. Most aren't armed, because we don't shoot each other.

[annoloki]

@Peter4101 The individualism of the US means that a quarter of all deaths from the strike on the twin towers has occured in the decade since, because that's how many people have died from not being able to afford health care. Our government here is proposing cuts to our national health service, and they're having to back down on so many of them, because we WANT to pay for a good health service for everyone. I don't want -me- to be well off. I want my society to be well off.

[annoloki]

@Peter4101 Um... I can try... the main thing I guess is that we believe we're stronger in groups, so we don't put the short term rights of the individual before the long term rights of the society. The people who lost property during the riots, who can't cover it with their insurance, we're going to look after them, and pay for their losses as a country, and that will cost us a lot less than if we give everyone guns then have to arm all our police then have issues with shootings all the time.

[Peter4101]

@annoloki Alright then at least share what kind of culture you have so i can have a desent understanding of it.