Aliens & Secret Govt. Group - Nick Redfern Part 11

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UFO researcher Nick Redfern joined George Knapp to talk about a secret group within the U.S. government known as the Collins Elite, who believe our purported alien visitors are actually deceptive demonic entities. Redfern first learned of the group's existence, through Ray Boeche, an Anglican priest, and former director of Nebraska's MUFON. Boeche said back in 1991 he met with two men from the Defense Dept. who told him about a secret project to contact NHE's (non-human entities). They showed him photographs of people who allegedly died during experiments while contacting the NHEs, and contended that the beings they communicated with were simply masquerading as ETs.

Eventually, Redfern interviewed a man in his 80s named Richard Duke, who claimed to be a member of the Collins Elite up until 1960, and recalled many specific details about the group. The group took its inspiration from occultist Aleister Crowley's ritual in which he reportedly made contact with an interdimensional entity named Lam. Later, in the 1940s, rocket scientist Jack Parsons engaged in similar experiments trying to invoke a being, and subsequent UFO sightings may have been enabled through his opening of a portal, the group believed. According to Duke, the Collins Elite also suspected that various contactees in the 1950s, such as George Hunt Williamson, who used a Oujia board for ET communications, were experiencing demonic deceptions.

In the 1960s, the Collins Elite examined a number of NDE reports, such as one in which deceased humans moved through a hellish landscape as a UFO-type craft hovered overhead, extracting their souls with a ball of light, Redfern detailed. "They eventually came to the conclusion...that the human soul possesses some sort of energy, which these entities can use as sustenance...In other words, they're harvesting human souls," he said, adding that the group believed that a strong religious viewpoint, such as Christian fundamentalism could keep the demonic entities at bay.

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Education

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• ufos
• greys

[Zophim314]

The caller at 5:20 illustrates just how easy it is to deceive someone.. He first creates a premise that these beings are flesh and bone, then concludes they "must be" aliens because they "can't be" demons. Angels are spirits who can take physical form, and if a demon is a disembodied spirit that can/did inhabit a physical body (possession) then the greys could be a physical (flesh or not) being that is a demonic spirit. We also need to consider which definition of the word demon we are using.

[cetnikz]

Dan in New York has it all wrong.I personally think these alleged "aliens' are simple golems and/or homunculus type beings.They are vehicles for demonic entities to interact in this dimension with humanity.They are of matter but have no soul, they are simply inhabited by etheric energy.Sounds as plausible as outspace visitors.

[cetnikz]

This phenomena molds itself to our ever changing,ever evolving belief systems and is impossible to pin down because it is deception.Unfourtunalety for some,the Bible is in fact correct. This is all about the battle for your soul and those who kill and commit violence provide the energy for these entities to interact with us on our plane of existence.They rely on tainted souls for survival.

[ZionistWorldOrder]

The woman in the middle has it so wrong, why does a ufo have to be nuts and bolts? Why does she keep on insisting the aliens have bodies of flesh and bones? Does she have one? Has anyone ever seen a body of flesh and bone that werent in their minds for certain? How many alien bodies do we have that she speaks with certainty? It's all hearsay, witness this witness that, they could all be multi dimensional entities, or demonic if you will, the only thing for certain is theres something out there.

[mike6291]

5:20 There is a difference between a disembodied spirit, and a being with a "spiritual body" as 1Cor 15:44 refers to. Angels (and men for that matter) are indeed spirits, but there are numerous times in the Bible where they spoke to men, and even ate with them.... Not to mention the fact many wonder what the purpose of abuction is, when it could be to create flesh "containers" for use on earth. So the caller is jumping to conclusions, and taking scriptures out of context.

[ClaviusPH]

Caller at 3:00 is so annoying, hope someone kicks the shit out of him!! DOUCHE! And I hate the way he speaks. 

[rounsif]

they should have a show with this last caller!!!!!!