Sharyl Attkisson speaks to Rep. Dave Weldon, R-Fla., about the Hannah Poling case and the heated debate over vaccines and autism. Weldon, a doctor, wants more research on the issue.
When I was a kid, vaccinations were not as common as today and we had way fewer cases of autism. Now it is more than 1 in 110 kids are being diagnosed as autistic.
@ImperfectLaura I didn't actually "attack" you originally. I stated a fact. You may think you have a point, yet you provide no evidence from which you based that belief on.
@ImperfectLaura If your beliefs about vaccines have nothing to do with autism, you really don't have anything to add to this particular topic, since that's what this topic is about. While I see your point about some vaccines (E.g. flu and chicken pox [though people die from flu every year]) most vaccines in question are given to children to prevent life threatening diseases. And have you ever cared for a child suffering from chicken pox? That might change your mind about the vax for it.
@TheRealVenna My personal belief is a combo of those 3. I've looked at it from all 3 angles & that's what I've come up with. If you come up with something else that's fine for you. And I have no connection to autism & don't really base my decision to vaccinate on the autism thing. My position is more about the quantity of things that are vaccinated for & how some of the diseases really aren't that life threatening to someone in my circumstance. I support informed consent either way you choose.
@ImperfectLaura Not to be argumentative or anything but if your position on vaccines is based ANYTHING besides science, your position really can't be upheld as factual and true because religion and their various beliefs are not fact and everyone believes something different. Faith and passion don't have any place when making a scientific determination and if science has proven, over and over and over, unable to find a vax/asd link, then these beliefs that there is one are in fact not factual.
@bengalslash I mean more that my opinion of vaccines is a combination of scientific personal & religious beliefs. I don't have enough characters nor do I wish to discuss something like that fully on youtube.You want to disagree with me? Fine, vaccines are a complex & personal thing.I just don't agree with you attacking 1 little phrase & discounting my whole argument.It's what I believe & I've researched it. I'm not going to waste the time & energy debating those who don't want to get my point.
@ImperfectLaura so now TOO wordy. I don't understand your notion that you shouldn't be specific when addressing a topic. What credible medical evidence makes you think immunization "leads" to dependence on drugs? DNA viruses mutates at a much lesser rate then RNA viruses because of the "spell check" type mechanism of dna polymerase. In most cases it does not matter if it mutates because those highly conserved epitopes can be taken advantage of.
@bengalslash I've been told by people who support vaccination that vaccines boost your immune system. And obviously, I've been told something very different from the other side. I'm not sure whether your issue is with that particular word or with my point. If it's with my point as a whole, then we actually have something to talk about. If it's with my word choice, then I have nothing more to add. It's stupid to get that wordy on youtube.
@ImperfectLaura how would you build it? Would you engineer new complement? Would you recombine gene segments to produce new lymphocyte receptors? Feed your macrophages to make them bigger? Increase their ability to phagocytosize bacteria and dead cells? Facilitate the uptake of antigen by antigen presenting cells for eventual clonal selection by lymphocytes??? "common phrase used by many sides"? Please, "boost/build" you immune system is a quack phrase. How does one "boost"?
@bengalslash Wow wordy much? Boost your immune system then. Whatever. What I said has been said by many before. Google "build up your immune system" and you'll see plenty of links offering different kinds of advice on how they think you should do that. I don't agree with all of them, but build up your immune system is a pretty common phrase used by many sides.
When I was a kid, vaccinations were not as common as today and we had way fewer cases of autism. Now it is more than 1 in 110 kids are being diagnosed as autistic.
Challagar 8 months ago
@ImperfectLaura I didn't actually "attack" you originally. I stated a fact. You may think you have a point, yet you provide no evidence from which you based that belief on.
bengalslash 8 months ago
@ImperfectLaura If your beliefs about vaccines have nothing to do with autism, you really don't have anything to add to this particular topic, since that's what this topic is about. While I see your point about some vaccines (E.g. flu and chicken pox [though people die from flu every year]) most vaccines in question are given to children to prevent life threatening diseases. And have you ever cared for a child suffering from chicken pox? That might change your mind about the vax for it.
TheRealVenna 8 months ago
@TheRealVenna My personal belief is a combo of those 3. I've looked at it from all 3 angles & that's what I've come up with. If you come up with something else that's fine for you. And I have no connection to autism & don't really base my decision to vaccinate on the autism thing. My position is more about the quantity of things that are vaccinated for & how some of the diseases really aren't that life threatening to someone in my circumstance. I support informed consent either way you choose.
ImperfectLaura 8 months ago
@ImperfectLaura Not to be argumentative or anything but if your position on vaccines is based ANYTHING besides science, your position really can't be upheld as factual and true because religion and their various beliefs are not fact and everyone believes something different. Faith and passion don't have any place when making a scientific determination and if science has proven, over and over and over, unable to find a vax/asd link, then these beliefs that there is one are in fact not factual.
TheRealVenna 8 months ago
@bengalslash I mean more that my opinion of vaccines is a combination of scientific personal & religious beliefs. I don't have enough characters nor do I wish to discuss something like that fully on youtube.You want to disagree with me? Fine, vaccines are a complex & personal thing.I just don't agree with you attacking 1 little phrase & discounting my whole argument.It's what I believe & I've researched it. I'm not going to waste the time & energy debating those who don't want to get my point.
ImperfectLaura 8 months ago
@ImperfectLaura so now TOO wordy. I don't understand your notion that you shouldn't be specific when addressing a topic. What credible medical evidence makes you think immunization "leads" to dependence on drugs? DNA viruses mutates at a much lesser rate then RNA viruses because of the "spell check" type mechanism of dna polymerase. In most cases it does not matter if it mutates because those highly conserved epitopes can be taken advantage of.
bengalslash 8 months ago
@bengalslash I've been told by people who support vaccination that vaccines boost your immune system. And obviously, I've been told something very different from the other side. I'm not sure whether your issue is with that particular word or with my point. If it's with my point as a whole, then we actually have something to talk about. If it's with my word choice, then I have nothing more to add. It's stupid to get that wordy on youtube.
ImperfectLaura 8 months ago
@ImperfectLaura how would you build it? Would you engineer new complement? Would you recombine gene segments to produce new lymphocyte receptors? Feed your macrophages to make them bigger? Increase their ability to phagocytosize bacteria and dead cells? Facilitate the uptake of antigen by antigen presenting cells for eventual clonal selection by lymphocytes??? "common phrase used by many sides"? Please, "boost/build" you immune system is a quack phrase. How does one "boost"?
bengalslash 8 months ago
@bengalslash Wow wordy much? Boost your immune system then. Whatever. What I said has been said by many before. Google "build up your immune system" and you'll see plenty of links offering different kinds of advice on how they think you should do that. I don't agree with all of them, but build up your immune system is a pretty common phrase used by many sides.
ImperfectLaura 8 months ago