@Soyuz59 yea it seemed to me at times that our s.f. was in the pockets of the cia. they controled our movements and operations as if they were really in the chain of command. officially the cia has no military authority either unfortunetly it never works out that way in real life. i cant of course comment on the spetsnaz and how you guys worked but that was what i saw in speical forces.
@Soyuz59 i am right there with you brother, the problem is in the last 35 years americans have not had to study our history as i once did. they have no concept of what this country is or stands for. they vote party lines and nothing more. they have no clue about the responsability of citezenship. when you mention iran and the 78 revolution, the shaw of iran was put into power by a military coup, orchastrated by the united states cia and brithish mi 6, replacing a democraticaly elected pres.
@abntemplar82 Of course, spetsnaz. was separate from KGB. It was done so to create a counterbalance.
Even today, the Russian Federation has a stake in Libya, both in terms of investment and a relationship with the leaders.
The people cheering Obama on fail to remember how Iranians brought down their tyrant -- only to replace him with another. This is not a lesson lost on many Russians -- who replaced a monarch with a dictator.
@Soyuz59 oh yea advisors from both our countries were the first pawns to go into harms way...doesnt matter if it was us army special forces or ussr spetsnaz. both systems are / were crooked as a dogs hind leg and run by meglamaniacs....we worked for the same people they are crazy as hell and totaly ungreatful.
I do not disagree with you at all. After all, despite the fact they contributed no troops, Spain effected the outcome of the American Revolution.
But we likely have "advisers" there as well, which I can state because I served in a similar role for the USSR before I defected, having grown sick of helping a demented system survive so long.
@Soyuz59 if we are dropping bombs there are boots on the ground...they are needed for target aquisition and targget designation. after the bombs fall they do bomb damage assesment. the types of units deployed are called marine scout sniper teams, army ranger and long range survalience units (LRSU) as well as army special forces...
i know this for a fact becouse i am a 20 year army vet, most of which was spent in the airborne, special forces, and on LRSU teams.
Obama has acted beyond his authority. We don;t even KNOW if we have "boots on the ground" as there are repeated rumors of US "advisers" (usually spelled CIA) helping the rebels.
The French had no "boots on the ground" until the 4th year of the American Revolution, but were selling arms to the Americans since about 1775 and legally as of 1778. Spain had no "boots on the ground", but was allied with France and the Spanish and French navies were key to the American victory.
@Towncrier123 But we are paying for and putting BOMBS on the ground. To what end? The claim is that we are NOT trying to remove Qadaffi, so what are we doing.
We had no "boots" on the ground in the first days of the Gulf Wars either...
One more article of impeachment for Obama. It's about time he gets charged. Obomba is tap-dancing on the constitution. check my vids
JakeBlakeProject 8 months ago
@Soyuz59 yea it seemed to me at times that our s.f. was in the pockets of the cia. they controled our movements and operations as if they were really in the chain of command. officially the cia has no military authority either unfortunetly it never works out that way in real life. i cant of course comment on the spetsnaz and how you guys worked but that was what i saw in speical forces.
abntemplar82 8 months ago
@Soyuz59 i am right there with you brother, the problem is in the last 35 years americans have not had to study our history as i once did. they have no concept of what this country is or stands for. they vote party lines and nothing more. they have no clue about the responsability of citezenship. when you mention iran and the 78 revolution, the shaw of iran was put into power by a military coup, orchastrated by the united states cia and brithish mi 6, replacing a democraticaly elected pres.
abntemplar82 8 months ago
@abntemplar82 Of course, spetsnaz. was separate from KGB. It was done so to create a counterbalance.
Even today, the Russian Federation has a stake in Libya, both in terms of investment and a relationship with the leaders.
The people cheering Obama on fail to remember how Iranians brought down their tyrant -- only to replace him with another. This is not a lesson lost on many Russians -- who replaced a monarch with a dictator.
Soyuz59 8 months ago
@Soyuz59 oh yea advisors from both our countries were the first pawns to go into harms way...doesnt matter if it was us army special forces or ussr spetsnaz. both systems are / were crooked as a dogs hind leg and run by meglamaniacs....we worked for the same people they are crazy as hell and totaly ungreatful.
abntemplar82 8 months ago
One cannot impeach Obama because he is NOT the President - so says the United States Constitution. Period. Obama MUST be arrested. Period.
1Snooper1 8 months ago
@abntemplar82
I do not disagree with you at all. After all, despite the fact they contributed no troops, Spain effected the outcome of the American Revolution.
But we likely have "advisers" there as well, which I can state because I served in a similar role for the USSR before I defected, having grown sick of helping a demented system survive so long.
Soyuz59 8 months ago
@Soyuz59 if we are dropping bombs there are boots on the ground...they are needed for target aquisition and targget designation. after the bombs fall they do bomb damage assesment. the types of units deployed are called marine scout sniper teams, army ranger and long range survalience units (LRSU) as well as army special forces...
i know this for a fact becouse i am a 20 year army vet, most of which was spent in the airborne, special forces, and on LRSU teams.
abntemplar82 8 months ago
@jabberwolf -
Obama has acted beyond his authority. We don;t even KNOW if we have "boots on the ground" as there are repeated rumors of US "advisers" (usually spelled CIA) helping the rebels.
The French had no "boots on the ground" until the 4th year of the American Revolution, but were selling arms to the Americans since about 1775 and legally as of 1778. Spain had no "boots on the ground", but was allied with France and the Spanish and French navies were key to the American victory.
Soyuz59 8 months ago
@Towncrier123 But we are paying for and putting BOMBS on the ground. To what end? The claim is that we are NOT trying to remove Qadaffi, so what are we doing.
We had no "boots" on the ground in the first days of the Gulf Wars either...
Soyuz59 8 months ago