@kmsoileau spiritual things dont have any reality they are a invention of man I have seen no proof that spiritual phenomena is nothing but a trick or a feeling in the brain but if something comes along that disproves that I will gladly modify my ideas
@kmsoileau No its best to reject all thinks spiritual because to believe in anything outside of the natural world is dillusional and causes problems that have no reason to exist.
You're like a nudist who explains that nudity is obviously best because clothed people can't agree on a uniform. The fact that people disagree on things of the spirit doesn't imply that it's best to reject all spiritual things.
Religion and mythology are very much the same thing. Mythology is just "obsolete religion!"
The bible is an eclectic assortment of stories and advice for various people who lived at various times. Some is good advice, some bad. It's certainly not literally true and I find it incredible that anyone would believe that.
@atrujillo9 Sorry of course, I was speaking of interperating the bible as a proffessional or on proffessional advice, I don't mean that we can all ignore hundreds of years work and decide what it means for ourselves. I meant somthing closer to "you can pick based on your own personal feeling from a range of well reserched theories and ideas".
In general there are about two or three different fairly credible interperatations of many parts of the boook and we can basicly chose safely from these.
@Llywellyn94 I think you have to be careful with saying as long as you have it backed up. The entire purpose of hermeneutics is to correctly interpret Scripture. I don't think you should interpret the Bible based on your emotion as much as through the use of Greek to English lexicons, cultural context, concordances, etc.
There is no agreed upon interperatation because there are different interperatations of anything that can possibly evoke emotion and this issue happens to evoke emotion in litteraly billions (once you count people of every faith that consider Christ to be divine, a prophet or a wise man. Ultimately so long as you can back up what you say and it isn't invalidated by other parts of the bible you can't be far off the mark. and yes there are many Christians who disagree, nothing wrong with that.
If you give five people a Bible each, they will probably come up with five different interpretations. The Bible hasn't changed, what has changed is the prejudices of the person holding it. There is however, a correct intepretation
@kmsoileau spiritual things dont have any reality they are a invention of man I have seen no proof that spiritual phenomena is nothing but a trick or a feeling in the brain but if something comes along that disproves that I will gladly modify my ideas
pharoahjimhotep 16 hours ago
@pharoahjimhotep "Best to reject X" because "Believing in X is delusional" is circular reasoning.
"causes problems that have no reason to exist." Also circular, because it assumes spiritual things have no reality.
kmsoileau 17 hours ago
@kmsoileau No its best to reject all thinks spiritual because to believe in anything outside of the natural world is dillusional and causes problems that have no reason to exist.
pharoahjimhotep 17 hours ago
You're like a nudist who explains that nudity is obviously best because clothed people can't agree on a uniform. The fact that people disagree on things of the spirit doesn't imply that it's best to reject all spiritual things.
kmsoileau 1 month ago
Religion and mythology are very much the same thing. Mythology is just "obsolete religion!"
The bible is an eclectic assortment of stories and advice for various people who lived at various times. Some is good advice, some bad. It's certainly not literally true and I find it incredible that anyone would believe that.
kierstencd 1 month ago
@atrujillo9 Sorry of course, I was speaking of interperating the bible as a proffessional or on proffessional advice, I don't mean that we can all ignore hundreds of years work and decide what it means for ourselves. I meant somthing closer to "you can pick based on your own personal feeling from a range of well reserched theories and ideas".
In general there are about two or three different fairly credible interperatations of many parts of the boook and we can basicly chose safely from these.
Llywellyn94 7 months ago
@Llywellyn94 I think you have to be careful with saying as long as you have it backed up. The entire purpose of hermeneutics is to correctly interpret Scripture. I don't think you should interpret the Bible based on your emotion as much as through the use of Greek to English lexicons, cultural context, concordances, etc.
atrujillo9 7 months ago
There is no agreed upon interperatation because there are different interperatations of anything that can possibly evoke emotion and this issue happens to evoke emotion in litteraly billions (once you count people of every faith that consider Christ to be divine, a prophet or a wise man. Ultimately so long as you can back up what you say and it isn't invalidated by other parts of the bible you can't be far off the mark. and yes there are many Christians who disagree, nothing wrong with that.
Llywellyn94 10 months ago
If you give five people a Bible each, they will probably come up with five different interpretations. The Bible hasn't changed, what has changed is the prejudices of the person holding it. There is however, a correct intepretation
FuroraCeltica 10 months ago