Matt Chandler on the role of husbands as initiators

Taken from Matt Chandler's sermon "The Role of Men Part 2: Men as Husbands", given August 2007 at The Village Church in Dallas, TX.

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[gyamlj]

@TheK1N1 That was me. It took a wife and God's prodding for 40 years to start turning that around. To be fair to men, we are never trained in the role or expected to lead and live in a male-hostile society. It will be a generation of effort to turn this thing around. Films like "Courageous" and the men's ministries are a good start. In the meantime, a woman has to find a man with a heart for God and train him. Not what you want to hear but I don't see things changing very soon.

[forsbergnumber1]

@TheK1N1 (Part 2) this is a question for you because it's something i've struggled with is what is your stance on preperation before relationship because for one we'll never be perfect and we can always say i'm not ready for relationship, but on the other end we can jump into relationship out of selfish motives and it becomes a mess. (and what i was trying to say in the first part is it's out of love that i said what i said because it's messier and more painful if you go in with crappy ideals

[forsbergnumber1]

@TheK1N1 Yeah i was just making sure wasn't trying to be mean i just think it's good to make sure were solid in how be decide or feel someones right for us, because it'll end up causing a lot more hurt than good, but i absolutely agree attraction is definitely apart of marriage i would never want to marry someone i'm not attracted to, I think the other part is we have to look at ourselves and see where were at? and if we are prepared for relationship

[forsbergnumber1]

@TheK1N1 (part 4) Anyway if your a godly women who loves the Lord which it sounds like you do and you do want a godly man and you continue to conform to the image of Christ for your own life, you'll be given a Godly man

[forsbergnumber1]

@TheK1N1 (Part 3) "People get involved before they evaluate" this means the man or women starts compromising their values of what type of man he is because he's cute, or he's got a great personality, or we get along really well together, confidence does always equate Godliness, I've always told my self i would never get in a relatiosnhip as long as God wasn't in complete control of my life, I would never trust myself in a leadership role if God was not leading me or i didn't allow him to lead

[forsbergnumber1]

@TheK1N1 (part 2) your attraction for men should come completely on two things His loyalty and love for God and secondly that you feel God has called you into relationship with that man. all else will crumble if it's a foundation, watch "Husbands love your Wives" by Paul Washer and "Dating" by Voddie Baucham,

Second point i want to make is on emotional connection i believe that emotional connection is deceiving and can be tricky a quote i heard about the problem of North American

[forsbergnumber1]

@TheK1N1 Hey don't want this to come off as hostile at all but kinda disagree with your "way" or process of deciding a man is attractive. I don't think emotional connection should be a key for you to decide if a mans right for you neither chemistry, or confidence especially not confidence in himself. A man of God is someone who has come to the end of himself

[0326hkim]

maybe not 100%, but working towards it just like Matt's message.

[0326hkim]

@TheK1N1 i wasn't before, but now, yes ma'am! :)

[0326hkim]

@TheK1N1 oh, hahhaha! im such an idiot, sorry