Babylon 5 - Susan/Talia subtext
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Uploaded by talkid on Aug 27, 2007
music video for Susan Ivanova & Talia Winters, to Dido's White Flag.
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It would have been a big game changer for scifi at the time. Like willow/tara in Buffy the vampire slayer.
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@plutopianation So not male, but a big fan of Babylon 5. Fans of the show actually went on to ask the actress herself at the scifi conventions. She even went on to explain her character and that she was bisexual. She loved Talia and Marcus. The creators even discussed how they had to change the storylines after the actress playing Talia left the show to pursue her acting career.
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@DamnationGame1 That is sooo MALE of you to think that when she said she thogh she loved her than she meant secually, i mean come on use your brain there are many types of love and the one she meant was love like as a sister.
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@SciFiDude42 They had to keep it as non-obvious as possible. Networks tend not to like gay couples, and two women together is ironically harder to get away with then two guys together.
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Susan genuinely LOVED Talia, she admitted as much to Delenn when trading in her old Earth Force uniform for the new, INDEPENDENT B5 uniform.
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Because of the time when this show was on TV it could only be seen as subtext. But the relationship between the two was obviously meant to be romantic from the very beginning. Remember in the episode where Talia is shown to be a spy? There is that moment where she reaches over in bed and no one is there, then she comments that Susan was gone. It doesn't get much more obvious than that. :P
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@GhibliFan1 no, but it was pretty heavily implied. If Talia hadn't left the show they would have developed it more fully.
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So then....did any mutual carpet munching actually take place?
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@DamnationGame1 does that mean the whole lyta alexander story was born of talia leaving??
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@SciFiDude42 lol man
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I suppose it was written so it could be viewed either way, but I don't know very many women who look so longingly at each other like that and sleep together in the same bed and it's still platonic!
SciFiDude42 3 years ago 9
ivanova did confess at the minbari renewal ceramony (completely forgotten the name) that she thought she loved talia
chickabo 3 years ago 6