Edgard Varese - Ionisation

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beats john cage s silly new agey musings any day

its crazy how this is all notated

Nobody is trying to look smart or impress anybody.

It's just what happens to you when you are really into music and in particular being a musician. You have to keep pushing the envelope man, it's intoxicating.

This music isn't for you, it's for crazy people who are VERY into music.

If you don't get it then f^%k off and listen to something more your speed.

Yawn

you dont need to be "out" of music to know when something is bullshit

I don't know what you mean by "out" of music.

It's all bullshit man.

I'm personally pretty fond of the "organized sound" definition. Despite what many claim, it doesn't necessary exclude a chaotic, random sound-source. The key is selection, if you tune your ears to a washing machine and ignore other audio input, you are acting as a sampling musician. You, the listener, is organizing the sounds. Even John Cage's famous experiments into the limits of music, like 4'33, are organized, just not in the way we are used too.

Interesting point. Could you say that since sound is impossible to separate from our perception of it, then we cannot escape sound being organized in the sense that our brains have to process the information?

Yes, as Stockhausen said 9/11 was art - just not in the way we're used to. maybe the Holocaust too.