Re; JohnLArmstrongs' views of Divinity and Bigoted Reading of Scripture.

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http://www.usccb.org/nab/bible/numbers/numbers31.htm
http://www.usccb.org/nab/bible/deuteronomy/deuteronomy20.htm
http://www.usccb.org/nab/bible/deuteronomy/deuteronomy21.htm

John;
1.You still failed to articulate moral ontology in Christian framework correctly, your big brother remains a strawman.
2. Acknowledging moral perfection as having reality and calling it God is not circular reasoning. You would have to argue for a very sloppy version idealism for this to be true.
3.Your god (as you have articulated him) is not the one necessary being. What is also odd is how you believe this contingent being is impersonal to us, yet gives us the gift of reason. Your views of divinity are implicitly contradictory on these two pivotal levels.
4. Numbers 31 speaks of Moses commands. Moses =/= God.
5. Deuteronomy 20 has very little if any connection to Numbers 31; you completely missed verses 11 and 12 which make clear that the nation being discussed is a nation that refuses peace and wages war— even if this is the case they were not to kill the women and children.
6. Deuteronomy 21 also has very little connection to the latter two passages, but even then word for word (v14) refutes your blind leaping assertions.
7. Skepticsannotatedbible is a terrible source.


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[reprise92]

Its funny you accuse John of quote mining. Here is what verse 14 says according to the NAB.

However, if later on you lose your liking for her, you shall give her her freedom, if she wishes it; but you shall not sell her or enslave her, since she was married to you under compulsion

Obviously this verse seems to say something different at the word you. Its about the master losing his liking for her, not the woman leaving because she feels like it. Dishonest to say the least.

[Theologica37]

My argument is in the video.

And it is not my fault that John didn't include the surrounding verses. The important point was the bit about the denial of slavery-- if you remember, and will take off the rose-colored glasses; John claimed the passage taught rape.

[reprise92]

Circular Reasoning: a use of reason in which the premise depends on or is equivalent to the conclusion.

Your premise: Good is whatever God does.

Your conclusion: God does good.

Have a nice day.

[Theologica37]

That is not my premise, nor anybodies' conclusion.

Quote me directly if you would like to make an argument.

[Theologica37]

So true and false have "intrinsic values" but "ethics or moral" propositions do not.

Do I really have to point out the problem with this?

Are you familiar with the law of excluded third?

[Theologica37]

@gigniggner1234

This is one of the same issues that John was having, and it was basically due to his unstudied and contradictory theological views. I had, in this video, presented specific contradictions in his conception of 'god'.

You are arguing via a relativistic ethical system. Is it "true" that 'perfection' (as you're using it) is subjective? I.E. Is it subjective that truth is subjective?

You are in the fallacious circular reasoning of relativism.

[Theologica37]

I put them on approve while I'm away so that people that ask questions will get responses and not feel ignored. It also helps for people who just leave ridiculous comments filled with cursing and/or blasphemy.

[DickJohnson3434]

So is screening comments.

[mcuwe1]

i'll do that. Perfection is the optimum. Good enough?

[Theologica37]

I directly addressed him in his comment section. I wasn't really sure if his was a response to this latest one or not... made the same mistakes and out and out ignored 7 minutes of this video. Anything even remotely philosophical he completely ignored and chose not to respond to.. it was straight semantics.

He has resorted to calling me a liar and ignoring all rational dialogue.

He claims to be making a video to answer my questions and points.. I eagerly await it.