Charlie Parker Licks

On request this re-issue of an older jazzerman vid.

Category:

Music

Tags:

• jazz
• guitar
• Charlie
• Parker

[Jazzguts]

With all respect I don't believe in studying licks because those where composed during "instant composing". I believe in the greater context,the flow of things(so to speak) clearly what's played before and after such a lick is evident, now in analyses such a lick is drawn "out of context" and there my problem lies. The guys (Charlie Parker) who created these licks played them in the instant,they're not meant to be re-created,that's my philosophy,I've said it,greets Vic.

[dutchbopper]

That you don't believe in studying licks is ok with me. I have mixed feelings myself. But Charlie Parker did have certain licks and formulas that he repeated over and over again (e.g. the Honeysuckle Rose motif). But discussing that here is hardly possible.

[unibomber111]

When your are learning these licks, do you do anything else with them. Because whenever i learn a new ii v lick it never seems to pop up into my playing?...any advise on how to really sink it into the ears mind and fingers?

[dutchbopper]

Some of the licks make it into my playing, others don't. Not sure why. Maybe you have to play them a long time for one to do so.

[rentz46]

I lick is not meant to be learned from someone else. A lick is a signature only the guitarist can find within his own bio methods. Hence every guitarist has there own signature licks.

[sylviinho]

@Jazzguts u know, some great jazz musicians teach to learn licks.. they use the theory that improvisation is a language and licks are like words to be put into sentences.. even Monk, Davis and those guys "learned" they ideas studying classical music and "creatin" ideas.. they don't use to be 100% instant composed, but they use to have ideas that are developed as they play their soloes.. jazz is fun! :D

[Jazzguts]

@ZurabMelua Sure it is,it will only never come out the way you've studied it in spontaneous improvisation, or the whole solo will sound like a pre-conceived thing,that's not the essence of Jazz.

[ZurabMelua]

@Jazzguts You can't make something from nothing....I think transcribing and analysing licks is essential.

[iloverumi]

are these all in the same key? all major?

[closetome]

@Jazzguts It's a complete fallacy to think that jazz solos are created in an instant. Even Charlie Parker or Art Tatum repeats stuff. Do you know of any other channels to cop licks from dutch bobber?

[closetome]

Extremely useful!! How about some Joe Pass licks...

[Jazzguts]

@MrFreshSmile Well of course in that perspective it's OK and I think you're talking more about the Idea behind the notes, once you interpret that in your own way that's Cool, Vic.

[MrFreshSmile]

@Jazzguts studying licks is useful to learn a musician's solutions, of course they're not meant to be reproduced. That's how I see it. (:

[tokugijoo]

It's my own opinion (and experience) that studying many different licks (particularly in the same key) makes a person familiar with sounds they might not have imagined beforehand. It also gives a person a grasp on what is possible in a given position - not necessarily a practiced lick, but a sense of familiarity with the sounds, positions, and patterns that are possible and come out as music when you improvise.