The company you keep: Jephthah

Human sacrifice from the Old Testament

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[JimmieHiggins]

For those that may say, well, that was the Old Testament, please see; Hebrews 11:32, where Jephthah is called a Prophet who, "through faith conquered kingdoms, administered justice", bla, bla, baby killer, bla, bla, etc.

[TheMudbrooker]

@JimmieHiggins Thanks for the reminder, I knew Jephthah was given a positive mention in the New Testament but I couldn't remember where.

[whinda4702]

He made a vow to God and kept it. Oh and by the way the story of Abraham and Issac is different in that God told Abraham to sacrifice Issac to test him. In this story a promise is made. Totally very different.

[TheMudbrooker]

@whinda4702 So YHVH is cool with human sacrifice as long as it's someone else's idea? And of course it is much better to murder your child than risk divine wrath for your own stupidity.

[whinda4702]

@TheMudbrooker The fact is he made a rash oath without thinking and paid the price. This is why people should think before they speak espically to God. Peace to you.

[TheMudbrooker]

@whinda4702 Jephthah paid the price? It was his daughter that bore the cost of his vow. What kind of parent would sacrifice his child in order to save himself rather than accept punishment for his foolishness?

[Kooshmeister3]

It's so sad Jephthah's daughter has no name. I knew the story of Isaac but not this. This... this is just beyond inhumanly cruel. Especially the bit about how God apparently likes the smell of burning flesh.

[MrEmeraldfusion]

I never thought of that why not mentioned of the daughter's name?

[whinda4702]

@zipitup75What is being said here is not that the children are sinlessbecause we are all born with sin. What is being said is the children are only children and they do not sin on purpose like we do in a premeditated sense.That is why when children die before they are able to make a decision for Christ they go to heavenbecause this is what God chooses to do.We are to become believers and be dependant like children on Christ that is the point.We are t becomes as babesinnocent in an earthly sense

[zipitup75]

@whinda4702 he didnt say the exact words i was paraphrasing, but he made it clear that children were holy and sinless, because of these scriptures Matthew 18:3,

Matthew 19: 13-14, Mark 9:37,Mark 10:13-15, and Luke 18:15-16, if baby's and or children were sinners from birth as psalms 51 says why would jesus use a child as an example of holiness is psalm 51 clearly say we are sinners from birth, i guess i'm gonna have to buy the esv then

[whinda4702]

@zipitup75 Please give me the chapter and verse for the quote by Jesus and I believe the amplified bible is a paraphrased version which makes for murky reading.I read the king james and the new king james and I also like the esv. There should be no contradiction in any bible. SOme of the newer bibles are suspect and used to fit peoples personal theology. Such as at a gay accepting church you will not find the above mentioned bibles, do you know what I mean? The esv is one of the best.

[zipitup75]

@whinda4702 i read the NIV, the new world translation, and the amplified, it is corrupt and has alot of contradiction, why does some parts of the bible argues against it self, one example, in the book of psalms chapter 51, david said we are sinners from birth, and in the new testament jesus said all children are innocent/sinless, in romans paul said because Adam sinned all were made sinners, then in Ezekiel God said the fathers(Adam) sin will have no affect on the child, so....

[whinda4702]

@zipitup75 what bible do you read any why is it corrupt?

[zipitup75]

@whinda4702 so why did God allow him to sacrifice her in his name, and another thing in the book of hebrews jepthah is called a hero, meaning he did right by God, yes i'm on the fence with christianity, ive been a christian since i was 5 years old i'm 26 now, that 21 years, so i got myself a bible and starting reading it and asking preacher to help me worship God with all my heart and all i got was lies, i believe in God not the bible, man has corrupted that book so many times

[zipitup75]

@whinda4702 you're not getting the point, i'm saying God should've stopped him just like he stopped balaam but he didnt, why is that?, balak sent balaam to curse the isrealites and God intervene and violated balaams free will, by putting an angel in his path, Jepthah made a stupid decision and his daughter paid the price, why did God allow him to kill her, what about what he said in ezekiel 18, i'll paraphrase, God said the child will not suffer from the parents mistakes {continue}