People & Power - Philippines Baby Boom - 18 Nov 08 - Part 1

The Philippines has one of the highest birth rates in Asia. Economists say that unintended pregnancies are stifling growth and driving millions into poverty.

However, the government has refused to promote modern contraceptives which have succeeded in curbing population growth elsewhere on the continent.

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[yooalina16]

!What are you saying is "We are Stupid" Many people in poor communities cannot afford a decent education or don't have access to it. They can't help being uneducated.

Many people in the Western world had a good education and many privileges and yet they are still IGNORANT! SHUT THE FUCK UP!

[pronatalist]

@dobeeDEE

Rhythm probably doesn't work so well, in little 1-room shacks, for there is no place to be away from one's spouse during the most fertile time of the month, so of course they are still going to engage in sexual intercourse. No hiding a throbbing erect penis. Procreating babies is the NATURAL remedy.

No, the "no method" method is the most natural method of "family planning," and there is a long list of compelling reasons to let families grow naturally, possibly quite large.

[pronatalist]

@dobeeDEE

Don't think I am recommending "natural" methods either, as those also seek to deny the natural spread of human life. And natural methods have issues of having enough will-power.

Some say pulling out doesn't work, because precum oozes long before ejaculation, and each drop can contain 50,000 sperm. Often there is more than a few drops. Sometimes guy loses control and blows entire load.

But natural is less side effects, doesn't fund anti-life interests. And no expense.

[pronatalist]

@dobeeDEE

So why do I keep hearing of some Reproductive Bill, that sounds like some immoral subsidies for contraceptives? Who's going to pay taxes to pay for this? People struggling to provide for their own growing families? Why should they pay to deny other people their children? That's COERCION against having children. Why not subsidies for things more pro-life then, like making sure all medical clinics have plenty of well-baby delivery kits?

Free natural methods:rhythm,pulling out

[pronatalist]

@dobeeDEE

Reasons not to use condoms, which don't seem to be too much rooted in faith:

poor fit, dulling of sensation, semen backpressure, multiple "failure" modes, expense for a 1-use device, allergic to latex, wife wants more babies, love for children, desire for farmhands to help out, old age security, children are only wealth of the poor, children maybe can go to work - bring home a little money for the poor family, no automatic furnace in hut so more bodies in bed help keep warm

[pronatalist]

@dobeeDEE

And how many people might be unhappy, having lost their friends and relatives? Of course, in the suggested scenario, that might be a reason so many people also decided to leave, didn't want to get left behind, so maybe the one's who stayed behind, didn't have much family, and thought maybe they could make new friends.

But if the people are widely scattered, and cars no longer run, roads are falling apart, is walking and horse, going to allow you to even reach many people?

[pronatalist]

@dobeeDEE

Who would repair the power plants? Who would arrange for the coal shipments?

Most people, in developed countries, have forgotten how to live off the land, and would they figure it out fast enough? Machines and technology would break down, cars and trains stop running, because Where are the people who know how to operate and fix all these machines? With no electricity, your refrigerator won't stay cold, have to throw out food.

Of course, manual can openers will still work.

[pronatalist]

@dobeeDEE

1 million people would not be better off, than today's "burgeoning billions" 7 billion+.

What hypothetical shall we use? Let's say aliens took most all the people away, to move them to a more suitable planet, or planets let's say, for suitable presumably, for our "huge" pop size, and left 1 million behind. Maybe they said, they like earth, refuse to leave?

That way, we won't have to bury 7 billion bodies.

What a disaster! Technology would fall apart so fast, what to do?

[dobeeDEE]

@pronatalist

...are forced to use birth control,...or are they in the Philippines?...

What is it that you think is so scary and wrong with birth control, and dont say GOD this and GOD that....I want a really NON FAITH based reason for not having condoms around in the world.....

[dobeeDEE]

@pronatalist

I have a question, if there where only say, 1 million people in the world today, with todays technology and know how, do you think there would be lack of food? Lack of shelter? Lack of space?

I dont think so!

And also, as much as you say that people should be able to choose to have their child and not USE birth control, then shouldnt that way of thinking apply the other way where people who WANTS to use birth control should be able to use it? Its not like people...