Lifter Anti-Gravity Myth has been BUSTED 2 of 2

The Lifter (Anti-Gravity) Myth has been BUSTED! The so-called "Anti-Gravity" lifters that Beamshipcaptain, sparrowcommand.com and americanantigravity.com claim can modify or manipulate gravity, has been thoroughly debunked!

For some reason there is still debates on youtube about these lifters being REAL antigravity devices.

They have been scientifically proven to achieve lift based solely on the principles of Ionization of AIR and the thrust of moving ionized air downward.

For the complete 4 page story, google search for "The Antigravity Underground wired magazine" or goto http://www.wired.com/wired/archive/11.08/pwr_antigravity.html

This is Part 2 of 2.



Here are the links:

A lifter in High Vacuum doesn't work (@ Blaze Labs)

http://www.blazelabs.com/l-vacuum.asp

zoom to the bottom and read the red letters if you are impatient.


The Nasa Report (boring but insightful)

http://gltrs.grc.nasa.gov/reports/2004/CR-2004-213312.pdf

(note: NASA calls these asymmetric capacitors, because that is ,in essence, exactly what they are. Jump to page 16 and make sure you read the conclusion)

Category:

Science & Technology

Tags:

• Lifter
• Anti-Gravity
• electrogravity
• gravitec
• T.T.
• Brown
• vacuum
• beamship
• levitation
• Electrogravitic
• Ion
• physics
• UFO

[mikefromspace]

You cannot test the lifter with air around it, it must be re-tested without air.

Anti-gravity is all thrust, because mass is displaced by heavy positive ions that do not rely on air/light gasses to exist. Even ufos use thrust of +ions in space. There is no such thing as gravity modification, only the appearance of such using an ionosphere.

[stawmy]

Besides, the force exerted by a lifter is still 1,000 times stronger than ion wind can account for........

[stawmy]

Mythbusters BS as usual, only the gravity potential in the dielectric between the wires changes, it is also highly directional & localised, placing a 'gravity meter' in the area doesn't prove a thing. The lifter will work in a hard vacuum, not a partial one, and it has to be 100Kv or more.

'Nuff said ;)

[jonnydarkmusic]

@LendMeYourHand What you seem to be implying is that Electromagnetism and Gravity are fields that interact with each other. This is potentially true and is an expected property of a Theory of Everything (TOE), however no candidate TOE to my knowledge has been successfully tested and even the proposed link is ultimately conjecture. If you have reason to believe EM fields have an effect on local gravitational fields and, then please tell me your source, I'm intrigued.

[MrAwsome514]

@LendMeYourHand The people who believe that lifters produce antigravity generally theorize that they operate by creating their own gravitational field which they "fall into". If such an effect was happening then it would be detected by the gravity meter. An electromagnetic field would not interfere in any way with the meter's operation.

[LendMeYourHand]

@jonnydarkmusic I agree, but wouldnt that declare EM fields to be the true model, thus proving gravity non existent? What exactly is gravity when EM fields are what we are actually interacting with. Isnt an imaginary gravity model, like throwing a wrench in the equation when the REAL mechanics of gravity are the effects of EM fields. But what i was realy outlining is the fact that Mythbusters attempts to disprove anti-gravity by excluding Magnetic properties. How stupid is that?

[LendMeYourHand]

@MrAwsome514 Same difference, they try to use a gravity meter to identify Anti- gravity, so who's the idiot?? You ask why?? Well, you are measuring the gravity within electromagnetic field(s). You cant measure the gravity when multiple electromagnetic fields are involved, namely the Earths EM field. That means that an EM field will always be present when measuring anything while on a planet or any celestial body at that. Thats why Mythbusters ISNT science.

[MrAwsome514]

@LendMeYourHand Looks like the only knuckle head here is you...Anti-gravity meter? What video did you watch? They quite clearly called it a "gravity meter" as in it measures gravity. This tool was used to show that the lifter did not modify the gravity around it. Why?

[jonnydarkmusic]

@LendMeYourHand It's not an anti-gravity meter, it's a device that measures the gravitational strength at a particular location. This can be tested in multiple ways, for example the earth is not perfectly spherical - it is a slightly oblate spheroid and so gravity is weaker along the equator. One could test the device was working properly by comparing results at the equator to somewhere closer to the poles. Another more expensive option is to test it at high altitude where gravity is weaker.

[LendMeYourHand]

Someday they will make a vacuum that will suck up Leprechauns. Mythbusters will check the bag & bust the leprechaun myth. Then they create the Duh meter & find that the world is just Duh. The God Tracker will then be developed. These guys should try mythbustin' a cold shower some time soon People actually think this shit is REAL science.. Well, hit me with a frying pan, i think we finally got that tooth to come out.