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@ubermisogynist It is difficult for a person to exact vigilante justice against someone locked away for life. I suppose if you had mob connections... Rule of law is good, vigilantism bad, but people exact vigilante justice against those who offend them for non-capital crimes. My neighbour's dog won't stop barking so I poison his dog: Well, to stop that vigilante action, I guess they should have executed the master? Executing prisoners is not the solution to vigilantism.
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@papalosopher I think the death penalty helps the rule of law and limits vigilantism..get rid of the death penalty and people will exact justice on their own..in that scenario innocents WILL die..at least with death penalty it takes reasonable doubt, appeals etc
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@ElizabethZitrin why do you care more about money than justice?
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@ubermisogynist Oops... I thumbed up your comment before I read 1) the whole thing 2) your username. I agree that it is perverse to argue against the death penalty on the basis of cost, but I still believe it is wrong to execute.
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@ElizabethZitrin I don't see the emptiness of the promise... it sounds like the money is going to go to great things...
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Pretty sad that money is more important than justice..death penalty is not about determent..it's about justice and closure...the only reason why I can think someone would be anti-death penalty is so they can abolish it and go on a murder spree and get a cushy sentence like Anders Breviek...
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What they won't tell you is that in when the convicted murderer is sick, old and dying behind bars they will say "it's a waste of money to keep him in here, he's just an old man, we should let him out"
It's what was done in Scotland with the Pan-Am terrorist, and that's what they are doing in Illinois now.
Capital punishment may be more expensive, but it means no shithead getting out of jail when everybody who remembers the victim is dead.
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llinois has just abolished the Death Penalty this week and in CA one of our StateSenators has written legislation that will hopefully bring about the abolishment of the Death Penalty here. There is no reason for it to exist, and multiple sound reasons for it to be abolished in every state. If that takes a Federal mandate, so be it.
Yes ! We can save a BILLION DOLLARS in 5 years and use that money for services for crime victims and the elderly, solving cold cases, more policing, California's colleges, better public safety. CUT THE DEATH PENALTY ! It's an empty promise.
ElizabethZitrin 1 year ago 11
Not only does the death penalty need to be cut, but the whole justice system needs to be looked at. Because it is profitable for some like the guards, like the private prison system, prisoners are NOT rehabilitated they become better criminals. From what I've read, some of the guards, and I'm sure there are some good ones, are very abusive and should be the ones behind the bars.
betterpresident09 1 year ago 6