Birthrights - Hard Labour in Hungary

This film examines the growing criminalisation of homebirth midwives and explores the underlying issues behind Hungary's controversial conservative policies: Are they driven by money, control of women by the medical profession - or both?
UPDATE - March 24: Agnes Gereb was found guilty of medical negligence in two separate home births, including one in which the baby died. She will have to spend at least one year behind bars before parole and has been banned from practising both as an obstetrician and a midwife for five years.

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News & Politics

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• Birthrights
• Hungary
• Agnes Gereb
• Hungary homebirth
• Hungary midwives
• Julie Heathcote
• Emma Wakefield
• Hungary hospitals

[Lhaw06]

@Berrly91 living in a place doesn't mean you know everything about it, bring forth your facts, while you are not, AlJazeera remains one of the most trustworthy news cast

[bbphnix]

and you wonder why the natural growth rate in Hungary is negativ

[amameda1]

NE LISEZ PAS CE MESSAGE !! Je sais pas si je dois le croire mais je ne préfère ne pas prendre le risque Désolé . 1945,une jeune fille nommée lata kulu vint en Amérique dans un bateau gris venu d'Afrique. Un homme etrange la tua en gravant le mot "LATUALATUKA" dans son dos. Maintenant si tu as lu ce message elle viendra pendant une pleine lune dans ta maison et te volera ton ame a moins que tu ne suives ces instructions. 1.Réécris ce message en commentaires dans trois

[msmaszat]

@Kompolthy and that is why any homebirth/midwifery system must be fully regulated and midwives should receive proper medical training. Regulation includes not allowing women with a history of labor complications, twin births, not proper fetal position, and many other risks to birth at home. It is this regulation and support for GOOD midwives who comply with them that is missing in Hungary.

Many would argue with the vaccination-thought, but I'm a moderate on that one.

[msmaszat]

@Kompolthy Alright, I think we can agree on that. Thanks for your points.

[Kompolthy]

you still insisted on giving birth far from a hospital and medical conduct. Or stop feeding him/her or refusing to give him/her the proper vaccinations. Those acts are all putting the life of the child in danger. Uncomplicated pregnancies are another matter, the only problem being that sometimes it's quite hard to differentiate between the two.

[Kompolthy]

@msmaszat you fully own your own body but as far as law and ethics are concerned the child from the 3th month of his/her life onwards is considered an individual being not merely a part of your body but a living being of its own. (of course that is an artificial distinction, thing is he/she is not a property of anyone) you can make decisions about him/her as long as they are clearly not putting him in danger. like if you were having a pregnancy with foreseeable complications and

[msmaszat]

@Kompolthy Oh, and saying that no one has the right to risk someone else's life, well you are right. No one is trying to do that. And medical profs only know part of the story. And a very controversial question is :who has the right to make decisions about babies? Does society? Do doctors? Or do the parents who invited/created this new life and carried/nurtured it from themselves for 9 months? Do others "own" my baby? Can they make decisions about her? How about me and my own body?

[msmaszat]

@Kompolthy when the nurses are "showing" you how to breastfeed but "massage" your full breasts so hard to soften them up that you want to punch them, when they don't tell you when they do an episiotomy, well, I call that scary. And if it is scary, labor stops. I think I did my best by NOT bringing my low-risk, picture perfect pregnancy and labor even near a hospital. I would have risked the health of my baby by going to a hospital.

[Kompolthy]

@msmaszat I totally agree with that and also with the fact that in the present system mothers are often mistreated and that anyone giving birth anywhere deserves to be treated as a healthy human being rather than some kind of sick person which is sometimes the conducting doctor's attitude. I'm just saying that the solution for this could be the improvement of present circumstances IN the hospital and even founding of birth homes CLOSE to hospitals but certainly not homebirths far away from them

[msmaszat]

@Kompolthy Well, in the hospitals that I know (emphasis) those circumstances do exist. When the nurses tell you to stop screaming because you may scare other moms, when numerous people come in to see you labor while you are spread-eagle on your back, unable to move around, like you long to, when the doctor comes in to catch the baby and walks out with a hefty chunk of gratuity money, when they expect you to "progress" or else they intervene "to save the baby" and get home for dinner,

[msmaszat]

@Kompolthy Hi, I must say your rhetoric is excellent, but let me just bring up a thought from Ina May Gaskin, which is now widely- meaning by MANY med. professionals- shared: that is, that the circumstances in which the birth happens and the psychological state of the laboring mother has a physical/anatomical effect on the birth process, that is, a feeling of vulnerability, exposure, humiliation, helplessness and abuse can actually halt/stop labor.