15th Foundational Falsehood of Creationism Pt 1

The first of a two-part final installment to this series, explaining what the words, hypothesis, fact, law, and Theory actually are, rather than what creationists want us to think they are. Hint: a scientific theory isn't a guess, but an explanative study of real phenomenon.




Here's the script:
http://darwinwasright.homestead.com/15thFFoCPt1.html

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[JustinBraun12]

This video did not suck. In fact, it was fantastic. Thanks for your efforts in helping to make the world a little more rational, aware, and reasonable. Now if you'll excuse me, I need to make a sandwich.

[scottclements78]

Gravity is a theory.

[dj092768]

@scottclements78 Well, sort of. Gravity and evolution are facts. The theories thereof are our explanations of those facts, based on currently available data. Gravity and evolution are going to continue to work exactly as they have been regardless of whether we might need to modify our theories do to new data.

[TheZooCrew]

@ScholarVisual

Additionally, we've come a long way since the Urey-Miller experiments. We've observed not only amino acids, but nucleotides form from prebiotic conditions. We've observed self-replicating systems like primitive RNA develop from raw chemicals alone.

Think of abiogenesis and evolution like quantum and classical physics. Both have their accurate application space, but the middle ground between them is hazy.

[TheZooCrew]

@ScholarVisual

"Inorganic" and "nonliving" are not synonyms. Not even close.

"And evolution dosnt create anything it only can alter. "

Depends on what you mean by "create."

"meaning after abiogenensis the cell can DEVELOP (not create). Through evolution"

No. Abiogenesis includes the formation of cells into their most primitive form. Abiogenesis is generally considered to last until horizontal gene transfer ceases and the mechanisms of evolution take over.

[ScholarVisual]

@TheZooCrew 1st Its limitation is "cells can only form from other cells". 2nd the miller experiment showed how in inorganic or none living matter can form into amino acids which would be the building block of life. 3rd if abiogenesis is the the jump start of life. It is indeed inorganic matter that developed into cells. And evolution dosnt create anything it only can alter. Thats why i said. through evolution, meaning after abiogenensis the cell can DEVELOP (not create). Through evolution

[TheZooCrew]

@ScholarVisual

In addition, the formation of the first cells is still abiogenesis, not evolution. I don't know where you get all this misinformation, but you should probably stop.

[TheZooCrew]

@ScholarVisual

"when thats exactly verbatim the law pertaining to cell thoery."

No, it's not. It's a blurb from a Wikipedia entry. Again, every scientific theory has its limitations. Newtonian gravity incorrectly predicts the movement of Mercury and doesn't explain gravitational lensing, but it's still accurate for most planetary applications. Cell theory explains what we know about cells, but it doesn't explain their origin. You should study this stuff rather than pull it out of your ass.

[TheZooCrew]

@ScholarVisual

" Its either cells can only come from other cells or cells can develop through evolution from inorganic matter."

That's not only a false dichotomy, but a total straw man as well. Life did not form from inorganic matter. Clearly you don't know what "organic" means nor have you any basic understanding of science. You should probably graduate high school before making arguments such as these.

[ScholarVisual]

@TheZooCrew Lev 20:13 "If a man also lie with mankind, as he lieth with a woman, both of them have committed an abomination: they shall surely be put to death." Christian responds. "It says that but that isnt what it really means." Cell thoery - cells can only form from other cells. Your responds "That's not exactly cell theory" when thats exactly verbatim the law pertaining to cell thoery.

[ScholarVisual]

@TheZooCrew I show a christian a law in the bible they say its the wrong context. I show you a law of cell theory and its the wrong context. If that part of cell theory is false then they should take it out. You cant have it both ways. Its either cells can only come from other cells or cells can develop through evolution from inorganic matter. pick one.