Doctor Who - Amblin Spider Dalek
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@DavyTom71 Interesting. To me, Vincent and the Doctor is the epitome of everything the Doctor stands for, and thus is one of my favorite episodes. In that episode we see the Doctor understanding that no matter what he does he cannot save Vincent or make his life easier, but he tries anyway. The best thing about the Doctor is that he genuinely cares and acts on that caring, and that is very clear in Vincent and the Doctor. He doesn't save the planet, but what he does do is far more profound.
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@TubularMonkey Yeah, because the piss-poor CBBC level writing we got from the Russel T Davies version was so much better...
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'Vincent and the Doctor' to me was the epitome of what is wrong with the new show - dull, had no tension or suspense, lacked a coherent plot and the resolution to the problem made no sense. And why has it become so obsessed with emotional issues? But the thing that bothers me most about DW is how smug it has become. Matt Smith could make a great Doctor but the poor scripts will let him down. The show's makers need to remember that it is a family show and not a kids' program
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@DavyTom71 Really? Did we watch the same series? I thought the 2010 serial was the most "Doctor Who like" series of Doctor Who since the relaunch with Matt Smith being the best of the new doctors by a mile.
That said "Vincent and the Doctor" may have contained one truly wonderful sequence but ultimately was terrible.
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so much scarier.
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I have a bit of an issue with RTD's style. But under his stewardship, there were some great DW episodes. But under SM's control, the 2010 series was obsessed with trying to appeal to kids and teenage girls. And scares and shocks were replaced with dull 'emotional issues' or embarrassing attempts at comedy
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@DavyTom71 I can't wait until SM leaves come back RTD all is forgiven, atleast he made the show a bit adult, with lots of death, SM doesn't believe in death he thinks it doesn't exist.
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You are spot on, sir. You have managed to describe the problem with the new Dr Who series in just one sentence
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@DavyTom71 SM has made Dr Who worse with his obsession with children, it degrades the show horribly.
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The older series was a family show. It was never meant to be a show just for adults. Nor was it meant to be just for kids. It could be cheesy (but that was often the fault of the very low-budget and poor special effects) and not all the stories were great. But Dr Who in the 60s and 70s did have more better plots, more atmosphere and quite a few shocks. The latest Dr Who is a kids' show with pedestrian plots, no atmosphere, and no scares at all
if they got this far in the design, imagine how much other 'cool' stuff they must have hidden away somewhere, shame we will probs never see any of it!
evilproaxe 3 years ago 9
I think it demonstrates how lucky we were that Dr Who didn't get a full comeback in 1996. At that time it was in the hands of people who would not have handled the license tastefully. I could do without an X-Files/Sliders hybrid! We're lucky that Amblin and Spielberg didn't get their Spider Daleky claws into the series.
TubularMonkey 4 years ago 7