Say "No!" to the Vatican

March today to protest against the Pope's visit to the UK later in 2010.

Link to the Sisters of the Perpetual Indulgence web page:
http://www.londonsisters.org/

Link to the Central London Humanists:
http://www.centrallondonhumanists.org/

Link to the BHA:
http://www.humanism.org.uk/home

Link to the gay and lesbian humanist association:
http://www.galha.org/

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[Kawamura2]

I really hope that your voices are heard. Pope Ratzinger doesn't deserve to be able to make an appearance, especially at the expense of taxpayers, who i am sure a vast majority of don't want him visiting. If i could sign the petitions, i would but seeing as I am American, i unfortunately can't. But, I believe in your cause, and you have my support, morally anyway :)

[thatgaybloke]

@RockyBalboa211 If your god supports people who protect child rapists, you might want to rethink your priorities.

[henrikhankhagnell]

Say "Yes!" to the Vatican

[ogiaag5m]

@thatgaybloke

That is what the media wants you to focus on.

They dont tell you the other side where some Christians are giving their very lives to help the under privledged.

Mother Teresa was a good example of this but there are many just like her that you never hear about on the news because they want you to just see the bad.

I agree there is alot of hypocrisy about but the spirit of Jesus does live in the hearts of many individuals its just that you havent met them yet.

[thatgaybloke]

@thatgaybloke Plus, when you look at what happens in Catholic hospitals, orphanages and schools - the claim they are "good" doesn't stand up to scrutiny. Much of the abuse and suffering dished out by the Catholic clergy originated in these institutions.

[thatgaybloke]

@thatgaybloke You can't use the odd "good" work to offset the evil. You can't defend a serial rapist because he gives up his Sunday to drive the orphans to the park on Sundays. In any event, your argument is invalid because non-Christian countries also have orphanages, hospitals and schools.

[thatgaybloke]

@ogiaag5m Don't talk about "true" Christianity, because it doesn't exist. What we have in this world is nothing like the compassion, social responsibility, forgiveness and love that Jesus supposedly preached. Instead we have a number of incredibly wealthy businesses with a history of murder, torture, cruelty and oppression that stretches from their very inception.

[ogiaag5m]

@thatgaybloke

No im speaking of the morals that Jesus taught in the bible and none of the ones you have mentioned above are in the bible.

Dont just focus on the negative but look at the good that has come out of TRUE Christianity.

Hospitals,orphanages,schools and so many good compassionate works have come from Christianity.

If you study the history you'l be suprized.

[thatgaybloke]

@ogiaag5m What morals would they be? Witch burnings? Covering up for child raping priests so that they can go on to ruin more lives? Forbidding rape victims abortion? Some of those values needs to be removed.

[thatgaybloke]

@rockyracune Your argument is not only invalid because it's a "lesser of two equally evil evils", but because a Catholic England wouldn't have secular law - the interference of the Catholic church would see to that. There have been numerous examples of politicians being threatened with the withholding of communion or even excommunication if they vote in favour of gay rights, abortion and other policies that the church currently opposes.

[thatgaybloke]

@rockyracune Would I rather be stabbed in the eye with a knife that has a red handle or one with a blue handle?