@sbgrant you like bands to lie to you and for yourself to loose money, OOOKKK ;) let me ask do you ever invite them back?
it's funny how i got told differently by 3 labels and 2 PR at the acm feedback confrences. that the worst thing you can do is lie about how many punters you can pull to a gig, the reason being is that the promoter will develop a trust, and he/she may well have further connections with more gigs at bigger and better venues.
@taylorlloyd I'm not in a band, I'm a promoter. I don't do it for a living, but in the past I have worked full time for promotion agencies. Promotion is a business. The promoter needs to know Band X can get 35 people or he makes a loss. End of story. If you can't bring 35, someone else will, and bands are queuing up constantly. If you have to lie, lie. You're not a band, you're a "35 people bringer"... or you're not. If you have to lie, lie. Many, many do. And you never know who might be there.
@sbgrant If you say 'yes' to bringing 35 people down to london on a thursday night you are either famous, upcoming or delirious; you should be doing everything you can to suggest an honest, reasonable arrangement and be genuine about the amount of punters you can actually bring - no one likes a liar. now i don't know your band, and you tell me your quite underground, so do you still agree with - "If a promoter says, "bring 35 people", the correct response is "OK, no problem"
@taylorlloyd you need to work on your attitude to get yourself more gigs. If a promoter says, "bring 35 people", the correct response is "OK, no problem", not "fuck you! Do your job!". You cannot afford to lose contacts or opportunities in the underground. Don't fall into the trap of many a band by thinking you're special: you're not, and the scene is saturated with small artists. If you won't fill the slot, another will. Sorry if it sounds like I'm having a go, but I'm actually trying to help.
haha the squat box.
arsehole420 3 weeks ago
Very very true in London!
XsaraTube 7 months ago
This is absolutely QUALITY!!!
Giordano93 8 months ago
HAHAHAHAHA amazing, this is basically the Monto vampires =D
pooisniceonsunday 8 months ago
This is exactly how working with a promoter is. They win everything, you lose everything.
arclight200783 8 months ago
@sbgrant you like bands to lie to you and for yourself to loose money, OOOKKK ;) let me ask do you ever invite them back?
it's funny how i got told differently by 3 labels and 2 PR at the acm feedback confrences. that the worst thing you can do is lie about how many punters you can pull to a gig, the reason being is that the promoter will develop a trust, and he/she may well have further connections with more gigs at bigger and better venues.
taylorlloyd 8 months ago
@taylorlloyd I'm not in a band, I'm a promoter. I don't do it for a living, but in the past I have worked full time for promotion agencies. Promotion is a business. The promoter needs to know Band X can get 35 people or he makes a loss. End of story. If you can't bring 35, someone else will, and bands are queuing up constantly. If you have to lie, lie. You're not a band, you're a "35 people bringer"... or you're not. If you have to lie, lie. Many, many do. And you never know who might be there.
sbgrant 8 months ago
@sbgrant If you say 'yes' to bringing 35 people down to london on a thursday night you are either famous, upcoming or delirious; you should be doing everything you can to suggest an honest, reasonable arrangement and be genuine about the amount of punters you can actually bring - no one likes a liar. now i don't know your band, and you tell me your quite underground, so do you still agree with - "If a promoter says, "bring 35 people", the correct response is "OK, no problem"
taylorlloyd 8 months ago
sounds like so many promoters in London
MegaEliotNess 8 months ago
@taylorlloyd you need to work on your attitude to get yourself more gigs. If a promoter says, "bring 35 people", the correct response is "OK, no problem", not "fuck you! Do your job!". You cannot afford to lose contacts or opportunities in the underground. Don't fall into the trap of many a band by thinking you're special: you're not, and the scene is saturated with small artists. If you won't fill the slot, another will. Sorry if it sounds like I'm having a go, but I'm actually trying to help.
sbgrant 8 months ago