Richard Dawkins talks to an organiser of a "hell house" play and is shocked at the unapologetic way in which the fear of hell is used as an effective coercive tactic.
Transcript:
R.D (voiceover): It's deeply disturbing to think that there are believers out there who actively use the idea of hell for moral policing.
R.D (voiceover): In the United States, Christian obsession with sin has spawned a national craze for "hell-houses". Morality place cum Halloween freakshows in which the evangelical hobby horses of abortion and homosexuality are literally demonised.
"Satan": Come on in. (maniacal laughter)
"Nurse": Chrissy. Be still. This was your choice.
"Satan": Choice!
Pastor Roberts: Good job, guys.
R.D (voiceover): Pastor Keenan Roberts is rehearsing a new production of his Colorado based hell-house, which he's written and staged for almost fifteen years.
R.D (voiceover): He fervently believes that you have to scare people into being good.
Pastor Roberts: The call upon my life as a pastor, as a minister, is to tell people what the book says and what I and we and our church and hundreds of churches across this country and around the world are doing is we have found a very creative, effective tool that is getting people's attention...
R.D: I believe it...
Pastor Roberts: ...to consider the message.
R.D: I believe it...
Pastor Roberts: We want to leave an indelible impression upon their life, that sin destroys. Every scene preaches the truth that either sin destroys or Jesus saves.
"Chrissy": You're gonna hurt me. You're hurting me...
"Nurse": Chrissy, it's only a medical procedure.
"Chrissy": No! No, I changed my mind... (piercing scream)
"Satan": It's just too bad, I wasn't there the night you were born. (laugh)
Pastor Roberts: Good
R.D (voiceover): If this is a rehearsal, think how horrific the full production must be.
R.D: I presume you have a cut off age for the tour. I mean, no children below an age of... What is your cut off age?
Pastor Roberts: Well, over the years of having audiences and people go through this, we have come to the decision that the best age for young people is really at twelve.
"Satan": You see killing babies is such a wonderful... choice. It's so... convenient.
R.D: Would it worry you, if a child of twelve coming to see your performance, had nightmares afterwards or would you like that?
Pastor Roberts: I would like them... I would like for their life to be changed, no matter what. I would rather for them to understand that hell is a place that they absolutely do not wanna go. I would rather reach them with that message at twelve than to not reach them with that message and have them live a life of sin and to never find the Lord Jesus Christ.
"Satan": Do you solemnly swear, to never believe that you are normal and that God is responsible for making you this way?
(Girls look at each other and nod)
R.D: In the case of homosexual marriage, what harm does that do? Why would you be so passionately against that?
Pastor Roberts: They're living in sin...
R.D: That's your opinion. It has nothing to do with you, has it? It's their decision...
Pastor Roberts: It's not my opinion. It's not my opinion. I'm telling you what the Bible says.
R.D: It's the Bible's opinion, but these are two people who want to live together. Isn't it their own business? What right have you to interfere?
"Satan": This woman and this woman, burning in a repulsive lust for one another, decieved by all around that they've been born gay, are joining their deeply confused life in this nauseating matrimony. ("Satan" forgets his lines...)
Prompter: 1 Corinthians 6, God says...
"Satan": 1 Corinthians 6. God says... homosexuality is a sin. A sin...
Prompter: Would you cue him?
Pastor Roberts: I want them to know, homosexuality is a sin.
R.D: But you believe it presumably on the basis of scriptural authority.
Pastor Roberts: Absolutely!
R.D: Um.. yeah...
Pastor Roberts: Unapologetically.
R.D: Yes, unapologetically but why are you so sure that that's right? I mean, if you think about where this book has come from... I mean... who wrote them and when... what makes you so confident that they're right?
Pastor Roberts: It's what I believe. It is a faith...
R.D: I know you believe it, but why?
Pastor Roberts: It is a faith issue with me. Why do you not believe it?
R.D: Uhh... Because of evidence...
This clip is an excerpt from a documentary called "Root of All Evil?". Buy it here:
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hey there. you speak of love and of god. I have three questions wich are intertwined:
#1 is 'god' all powerful and full of love and if he is
#2 why does 'god' need loopholes such as sacrificing his 'son jesus' to 'save' us from our 'original sin' (can't he just say wriggle his nose and blink)
#3 and why does god send people to 'hell' to torture them for eternity if they do not accept his loophole son named jesus as saviour?
on a side note if you come up with an answer you would be the first.
MWcrazyhorse 2 years ago 9
Wait...So your telling me killing babies ISN'T convenient?
pixelape99 2 years ago 6