Proof Jan Ali Kazmi is Against Zanjeer Zani ka matam (Azadari) in the UK

All shia specially azadars that repect bibi paak (SA) and her dua that may allah (SWT) create a sect that will mourn for my family. Then we must CONDEMN this guys lecturers as he is causing fitna amongst the lovers and followers of Imam Hussain (AS).
This was his Ashura lecture filmed live by DM Digital on the 08/01/2008. In this video jan ali kazmi (JAK) states clearly that he believes that zanjeer zani is not a good thing to be carried out in the UK as it stops others from converting to islam as people associate it with terrorism, which is utter rubbish (terrorism this guys deluded).
The tradegy of karbala is such heart breaking that people carry out zanjeer zani as a an act of mourning and to feel closeness to imam Hussain (AS). This type act occurred at the time of the Holy Prophet (SAW) and can be proven using hadees not just from the shia but sunni books one is the story of Owais-e-kurney, who broke all his teeth after being told that the Holy Prophet (SAW) had lost a tooth in battle. Due to his love and devotion to the Prophet (SA) he broke all his teeth as an act of closeness to the pain he thought the Holy Prophet (SAW) might have been going through. All the other sahaba did not do this but owais-e-kurney did as it was a way of him expressing his love and devotion. Does this hadees put people off of being muslim? Another is when the Holy Prophets (SAW) uncle (Hazrat Hamza) died in the battle of uhud and the people at that time were told to mourn for him.
The west is aware of self flagellation (have a look at this video its happening in the open http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=YzkpuztoJiA many more also available on youtube). The west is infact more understanding then wahabi / salafi (la) and certain sunnis. The western are more understanding especially when they are informed about the correct reasons about why individuals decide to carry out zanjeer zani. A point to note here is those who do not want to be educated or are not willing even listen to the answers and do not want to learn / understand on resons behind zanjeerzani will never be happy with it because they judge / believe / follow without knowing the correct reasons for why people are carrying it out.
Certain people in certain countries today and at certain times in history have not had the chance of carrying out azadari due to tyrants and followers of yazid (la) running the countries and oppressing shias from carring out azadari, yet we live in the UK (were we are free to express ourselves) and this JAK is trying to stop shias from carrying out azadari in a country like this. If you ask azadars around the world who are oppressed or are not able to carry out azadari to there hearts desire that we have this freedom in the UK to do this, they would love the opportunity to be hear. But instead we have this waste of Space JAK in this country trying to oppress azadari with a visa that could have gone to true momin.
He also said people associate zanjeer zani matam with terrorists and that is one of the reasons we should stop it in the UK, which also is complete rubbish as in the west the stereotype of terrorism mainly tends to be associated with:
1.he arabic word (caligraphy) of "laila ha illallah" as this is associated in the west with suicide bombers
2.The azan and people reciting namaz / salat (prayers) as this also associated with muslim terrorists.
3.The clothing JAK wears such as his robe turban is also associated by the west as a terrorist outfit and makes people think we are extremists. This also make people turn away from islam. Now will he change his outfit to a more western look to as he would say attract more western people to his cause (I doubt it very much). But yet he is happy to state zanjeerzani is wrong and sets a bad example.
So should we now stop all the above from happening as it can be seen as a bad example? Clearly his thoughts on unity and attracting others have led him to state zanjeer zani does not achieve anything for the non followers. Clearly if he followed his own school of thought then he should stop carrying out all the top 4 point.

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[abidali2k2]

strange title ... plz do not deduce such interpretations that may result in "tafarqa" ..

i think JAK is right ...

what ever action we do , we should forget the purpose and essence of that purpose ... actions are useless if they do not complement the purpose and the mission ...

[mukasireentelanat]

Your in pakistan not in the UK so this doesnt affect you. Are you nuts "tafarqa", my god some of you guys clearly are not listening to this guy.. or is it that he is a so called alim that you are agreeing with him and are not willing to accept that this guys spreading fitna.

[omerlanti]

my friend i think you are not listening to this guy! he is most definitely not against zanjeer zani infact he is promoting it by saying it can be the reason people convert to islam! so he is motivating people and promoting zzanjeer zani!!!! u r trying to spread tafarqa! so just accept the fact that you are wrongly accusing this person of something he did not do!

[mukasireentelanat]

omerlanti you just dont understand his speech, he has i agree promoted certain aspects of zanjeerzani, but he has CLEARLY stated there is no point carrying it out in the UK... as the west relate it to terrorism or crazed individuals.. your looking athis lecturew but not at his conclusion.. if in your minds you agree with him then accept the facts that he said he doesnt agree with zanjeerzani in the uk.

[Aks1wk]

any 1 who speak Unity of muslims we shud support him!!!!!!!!

[mukasireentelanat]

I agree, but until the muslims agree that Hazarat Ali (as) was the true succesor after the holy prophet and that the holy prophet (saw) family were oppressed either hurt, tortured, poisoned and killed inc the daughter bibi Fatima (SA) by the the kalifas and other so called muslim figures. This is poven in islamic history and sunni hadis. Until this unity will be a problem as one side supports the oppressors of the holy prophets family (PBUT) and the other hates them, it will be false unity

[hairiz1]

Bhai plzzz Aap tamam mohtaram dosto se guzaish hai k kisi b kisam k comments na den or apas mai na laren, net per hazaro kism k log bethty hain. Log hum logo ko takseem karna chaty hain. Khuda k liye apney Jazbaat per kaabu rakhen. Plzz think about it.

[matamiii]

ye manhoos 9th moharram ko majlis mey nahaney dhoney ki baten kerta hai...ghusl ky tareeqey bata ta hyyy...azadari ka dushman hy ye ....lanat is per

[vazirs]

Who is this man? how did he come to UK from a remote village in Sindh - Pakistan? Where did he learn his preachings? Is he not the one opposing "Shabab ul Momineen" from Bara Imambargah Mimbar in Karachi? Is he the one giving a new name to "Matam-e-Zanjeer"? Does he mean to say that you can collect people with your antics and start Tableegh? That is what he is doing? Why does he not take a Guitar and stand and Victoria Terminus, attract people and start Tableegh!!!!! like we see other preachers.

[nadiakazmi]

Unity my foot! if it was for unity then muslims have never displayed unity in favor of khilafat and then in fav or yazeed laeen. all ibadat lead to one thing Marfat e Masoomeen. there will be groups that will unite for that cause while others will unite against that. with the help f such (jak) muqassir shiyas are sure to lose focus for he is suggesting a lowr standard of ibadat that wot we shiaa blv in. our ibadat maintain their position of strength regardless of who ever thinks wot.

[babygirlthebest]

wooow mashallah mukasireentelanat bahi u said at sooo welllllll...... jan ali kazmi is a BIG MUKASIR n all i have 2 is that barrrrrrrrrrrrr mukasi lanat...bssss

[omerlanti]

you r just takin wat he said in the wrong manner that is it! we cant stop zanjeer zani in the west! it is a part of us and if the westerns think it is terrorrism hen we need to tell them that it is not and it is a part or our heritage!

[mutuza]

i think this posting is a disgrace, not once has he said that zanjeer zani is wrong or that it is against islam. he is making his own view. and just talks about other things that we may do in order to attract outsiders.

And lastly brother if you do zanjeer zani, i also do then your faith should be such that if people say anything against then why do you worry. just keep what you are doing and your ebadaat will be kabul.