Engey Brahmanan Tirukural and Geetha

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[karthikks82]

@basu519 Well said.

[basu519]

periyar ambedkaruku serrupadi and also for dravidian dogs

[pumpvelu]

@TAKSVENKAT the only crime shambuka did was to practice the Vedas which resulted in a brahmin boys death and to revive the brahmin boy OUR GREAT RAMA KILLED A SUDRA? AND WHAT WAS THE CURSE OF SHAMBUKA.? why is it in all our epics it is only shudras are cursed if Rama did not do any injustice how do you justify his back stabbing of vali and getting his widowed wife to be gifted as trophy to sugriva.sabari wanted to taste the berries so that Rama gets the ripe ones YET RAMA gave sabari nothing

[pumpvelu]

@TAKSVENKAT dear,if Ramanujan converted shudras to brahmins and those shudras today are brahmins what great difference does it make DID HE SAY THERE ARE TO BE NO SHUDRAS YET HIS OWN HOUSE HOLD WORKER WAS A SUDRA AND HE DID NOT CONVERT HIM.HE TOOK SANYAS leaving his brahmin wife to fend for herself.the reason that preparing a oorvalam vigraha was an eye wash to attract poor shudras to spend their hard earned money they did not nor will they do to allow shudras to perform pooja in the sanctum .

[TAKSVENKAT]

@pumpvelu Asuras were born to Kashyapa muni so people who believe that asuras were dravidians and Ravana was also not a dravidian, his father was a sage by the name Vishrava. The british and later Mr. E.V. Ramaswani have corrupted the minds of the people for fulfilling their own political Ambitions. Look at Bramhins like Ramanuja and Subramanya Bharathi both converted several non-bramhins to bramhins by performing the thread ceremony (upanayanam) and denounced caste based discrimination.

[TAKSVENKAT]

@pumpvelu

The Thenkalai Iyengars (now bramhins) are actually shudras and people of other castes in origin. Ramanuja in 12th century clarified that the varna clasiification is not based on birth and that everyone had the right to worship and pray god. He not only led the lower caste people into the temple but he made special provisions during ceremonies during which they would prepare and dress the vigraha (statue) for oorvalam (procession).

[TAKSVENKAT]

@pumpvelu Valmiki was not Bramhin by birth, his original name is ratnakar, he was an aadivasi (tribal) who was also a thief. He became a rishi and thus a bramhin by deed not by birth. Shambuka was cursed to be born as a shudra and be killed by Rama for his salvation. Thus Rama did not do any injustice, he freed him from the curse. Sabari in Ramayana was shudra by birth and Lord Rama ate the fruit after she tasted them. He never did injustice to anyone.

[pumpvelu]

@TAKSVENKAT this is the line brahmins take that it is not varnaashrama but varna shrama if varna is not colour what can be more authentic when they say the varna of a Sudra is black and that of a Brahman is white.the argument that valmiki was not a brahmin is unfounded because a Sudra valmiki will not let RAMA kill a Sudra shambuka in his version of Ramayana.the reason brahmins love and revere Ramayana is only for the fact that Ramayana teaches how our great Rama can kill and cheat Sudras

[TAKSVENKAT]

Bhagvad gita says that for a person belonging to a specific caste (solely based on his professions not birth) what are the qualities he requires to excel in his work and thus be successful. Varnaashrama does not mean colour based division it means Varna- colour/classification absed on Shrama - Labour/work. Indian labour ministry is known as Shrama mantralay. People who wanted to gain popularity and power in early days manipulated the sacred eligious saying so did periyar with emotions of people.

[TAKSVENKAT]

@pumpvelu Devas do not have temples because they occupy the second rung in godhood. As far as manusmriti is concerned, that is the first book to mention about upper and lower caste. The vedas do not mention such caste divisions (upper and lower). Let me tell you something, Valmiki was not a bramhin, nor is Vishwamitra. Bramhins revere ramayana and chant gayatri mantra (by vishwamitra). The religious corruption by a few has led to the problem of illogical caste divisions.