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Darwin Evolution Adam & Eve: داروين و التطور و آدم و حواء- هانى مينا ميخائيل
This series of 12 English and 15 Arabic video clips, 10 minutes each on the youtube.com and www.copticorthodox-divinejustice.com discusses how to understand Darwins Evolutionary theory and the story of Adam, Eve and Original Sin, where there is no contradiction except for Creationists (Bible literalists) and Atheists who deny God in the name of science!!! The latter is a non-scientific stance that lacks the basic definition of science, i.e. talking only about matter, space and time which could be studied in a lab, but not metaphysics, which is the realm of Faith.

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Darwin Evolution Adam & Eve: داروين و التطور و آدم و حواء- هانى مينا ميخائيل
1- Introduction: The big Questions: Why & How? No contradiction between God and Science Darwin did not speak against God The conflict is between Creationists and Atheists TREE OF LIFE
A meaningful ascending graph = intelligence = God; OR, that matter can think and develop its own Natural Law !!!

2- Big Bang, Red Shift, Expansion of the Universe, Point of Singularity (Stephen Hawking) = The Universe started from NOTHINGNESS, 15 billion years ago Criticism to Richard Dawkins, atheist.

3- Atheists say Evolution is the New God. Creationists say: take all the Bible as literally exact or reject it all (all or none). Carbon 14 dating. Genesis 1-11 is not science or history in our modern scientific sense. The main teaching: God created everything, out of nothingness, in order, and for a destiny. Symbolism: the Genesis Tree of Life is Christ Himself. St Paul: sin by one man, life by one Man Jesus. Israel = name of an individual, or tribe or nation. Adam = Soil; Eve = Life, Mother of Life, Human being.

4- WHY? & HOW? Francis Bacon: 2 infallible books: Nature and Scriptures. 2 fallible interpreters: Scientist and Theologian; hence the conflict. True and exact; True but not exact. Literal versus Symbolic. Anba Beemin (Coptic Orthodox) accepts Evolution for Adam and Eve, because primates are still dust.

5- Exact History gives, at least, specific Time, Place and Person. The Bible is not a book of science or scientific history, as we understand it. Only God is Absolute. The Bible was not meant to be scientifically exact, but a spiritually correct revelation on Salvation. Moses lived 700-800 years after Abraham; could he have written an exact record of Abrahams dialogue with the angels?
Times-online-paper on how to read the True and Exact as well as the True but not Exact in the Bible. Definitions: Parable? Myth? Lie? Fiction?

6- Four books to review. Israels religious historical map. Poetry is not a scientific report, still it is a true experience but not exact. God alone is Absolute: the Bible is a finger pointing to God. Genesis: Treasure in earthen vessels frame and precious painting changeable mould and unchangeable content. Moses, because of the hardness of your hearts allowed this was not from the beginning in the plan of God. Literalism does not glorify God any more than Symbolism; it only raises doubts!!!

7- Putting the Bible under the microscope is a disgrace. How? & Why? keep them separate. OLD MYTHS and GENESIS. Yahwistic and Priestly traditions in Genesis 1-2. Image & Likeness of God.

8- Old Myths and Genesis 1-2 on the story of Creation.

9- Original Sin. No guilt inheritance, as Grace is not inherited! Consequences of sin (punishment) are made by the sinner not God. St Anthony: on being with God or away from Him, we make our suffering.

10- Reason and Faith: Sayings of the Church Fathers on Genesis and logical thinking. Difficult questions raised if Genesis 1-2 is literal.

11- Darwins Evolutionary History: Natural Selection. Lamarckism, use and disuse. Defrees mutations. Mendels heredity. Teilhard de Chardin and Gods Ultimate Plan.

12- History of Mans evolution. Genetics and Epigenetics. Conclusion

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  • Are you Coptic Egyptian? If so, you must be well aware that your religion is a relic of the ancient Egyptian religious tradition, a vestige of the worship of Isis, virgin mother of Horus during Egypt's Hellenistic era, rather than being based on the worship of the new god Christ, who probably never existed.

    Don't get me wrong, I love the Coptic religion very much, as it is the modern link to our ancient Egyptian past, through language, liturgy and theology.

  • @leptismagna10 I have no problem with sceptics about the virgin birth. The Ancient Egyptian methology speaks of a completely different virgin conception. Isis, Osiris and Horus have no similarity to God the Father, Son and Holy Spirit except the number 3. The Spiritual non-material nature of God for us as Christians has nothing based on the Egyptian trinity. Believers need no proof, unbelievers would not accept any proof except a metrial one. Christ's witnessed resurrection is the nearest

  • Just about everything in this universe can be explained by evolution. Evolution by natural selection is fact of life, and a fact of nature. Once you have a solid understanding on how the laws of nature work, you'll realize that no supreme creator is required.

    God is just a concept created by man for superstitious and political reasons. If you can't see that now, you just have to open your eyes and ears, and read some history, and some science.

  • @leptismagna10 The origin of matter-space-time (the Universe) out of nothingness (the Point of Singularity, Stefen Hawking) before which nothing existed, and the meaningful ascending graph of the Evolution of plant and animal life, in only an extremely short period of 3 billion years, makes your suggestion a great joke! If these 2 events can occur by themselves, and not by an inherent Natural Law of Evolution by a Creator, then mere "matter" is more intelligent than you and me, it is a god!

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  • I'm sorry but I've pointed many mistakes in this video and one of them is about you claiming science does not approach 'why' in their explanations. Science does speak about the 'why's'. and That is what we call a 'theory'.

    Fact = What (observed

    Theory = Why (explanation of a fact)

    So a theory in science addresses a 'why' and a 'how'. It explains both.

    Also, a god can exist without a religion. Religious people think that it is impossible for god to exist without a religion and that's false

  • Wait a sec., it wasn't atheists who made the claim that Evolution is against a god. It's the theists who feel threatened by Evolution! It's theists who attack Evolution bcuz they don't accept the fact that we share a common ancestry with apes, just as they believe science goes against the 6,000 yr Xian claim of the age of the Earth. So they attack Geology and Cosmology bcuz these scientific disciplines counter what they believe the bible tells them. Don't blame us for not accepting superstition.

  • HanyMinaMikhail

    What makes you think that the "the point of Singularity" was the creation event?? How do you know that it wasn't a transition of matter from one form into another? The co-called BB may well be a continual process making universes?

    Matter and energy cannot be created or destroyed, only change form.

    Some people are quick to assume so much, from knowing so little.We don't know enough about the BB, or the pre-BB state, to claim anything, much less that a god made it all happen.

  • Why do you keep dishonestly talking about Darwin?

    Are you so ignorant that you do not realize that there have been advances in the last 150 years?

  • @HanyMinaMikhail "Believers need no proof" then on what basis do you believe? "unbelievers would not accept any proof except a metrial one" is there any other kind of proof (besides reason and logic)? That's like saying "unbelievers would not accept any proof except a REAL one"

  • @HanyMinaMikhail except that you have no proof that the account of the resurrection is verifiable. And yes, historical study demonstrates that all ancient extinct Middle Eastern religions from Egypt to Babylon had a profound influence on the scriptures, rites and rituals of today's living religions. Of course, if you saw that, you would not be a believer.

    Consider for example, the striking similarity between Psalm 104:24 and Akhenaton's hymn to the sun disc, 1,355 years before the christian era

  • @HanyMinaMikhail Besides, there's no reason at all to believe in the baseless Judeo-Christian creation myth of "Adam and Eve in the Garden of Eden" (which actually comes from Assyrian-Babylonian mythology - hence Eden being in Iraq) any more than the ancient Chinese/Egyptian/Greek or Norse creation myths.

    In fact, there's no reason to believe that the Hebrew/Christian Bible or Quran have an ounce of truth to them at all since they were written by deluded people looking for an easy answer.

  • @HanyMinaMikhail we are not necessarily more "intelligent" than anything. Like gods, "intelligence" is a human social construct, not applicable to anything outside the human realm. Ultimately both you and I are plain matter, only 24 elements interacting with each other compose our bodies, therefore we are no different than what stars are made of.

    Evolution also makes no claim to explain abiogenesis, but only to explain the complexity of life. Crediting it all to a "creator" answers nothing.

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