PZ Myers Vs Jerry Bergman 2 - 5

For the full version with improved audio, please see:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IYtlM0u5CwM

This is part 2 of this debate between PZ Myers and batshit crazy know-nothing Jerry Bergman.

For more information, please visit PZ Myers' blog, Pharyngula, at:
http://scienceblogs.com/pharyngula/2011/06/help_me_put_the_bergman-myers.php

Thanks to PZ Myers for authoring this video's posting on youtube. Please visit his blog: http://scienceblogs.com/pharyngula/

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• myers
• jerry
• bergman
• debate
• discussion
• batshit
• crazy
• creationist

[integralmath]

@IsorethanB: if you can figure it out, you'll be one step ahead of Bergman.

[wristawareness]

PZ, rockin' the Crockoduck tie

[jacobromu]

As someone who is in a complexity class right now, I've never understood what on earth creationists mean when they talk about it.

[hdfailure]

What this guy is talking about the irreducible complexity regarding the periodic table is utterly ignorant. It will not cease to be a form of carbon, because you remove some of his parts, in fact, it will remain carbon with different properties. Please someone correct me if i am wrong.

[benthemiester]

@integralmath I forgot to add the most recent

Peer-Reviewed Paper Argues that the Origin of Life Required "Purposeful Choices"

David L. Abel

Another recent paper that is not exactly a paper on ID but challenges evolutionary science and inaccurate evolution-education was submitted by Dr. Joseph Kuhn of the Department of Surgery at Baylor University Medical Center, appearing in the peer-reviewed journal Baylor University Medical Center Proceedings.

[benthemiester]

@integralmath The citations have been posted on your forum PHPBB under new topic entitled Peer Review. On another note, I would also urge you to take a look at "A Scientific Dissent from Darwinism" dot org. Check out my video... Do We Need a New Theory of Evolution which is a further critique of the modern synthesis.

[integralmath]

@benthemiester as it happens, I own a web server with some forums (linked to on my profile page here). Anyone's free to use the forums . . .

[benthemiester]

@integralmath Where would you like me to send it to? Its much to large for this forum and youtube has changed there inbox format which really sucks.

[integralmath]

@benthemiester provided they appear in the scholarly journals entailed by his and my argument, certainly.

[benthemiester]

@integralmath Would you like me to provide you the same published ID peer review articles that you and PZ claim to be non existent? You could have researched it yourself before you started calling people silly names.

[integralmath]

@benthemiester um, a fair reading what I read would return this as the output: The claim isn't that there aren't published papers; it's that there aren't peer reviewed published papers in science journals by these whackjobs

Evolution doesn't deal with abiogenesis because it's an irrelevant field to evolution. That isn't to say it's not a field worth studying; it just doesn't bear on how life changes once life exists.

[benthemiester]

@integralmath U say there are no published papers in peer review Journals & publications, and your calling me an idiot? PZ Meyers is a liar & I can provide citations upon request, and I'm sure if I do, you will also do what PZ is famous for & change the goal post. While Darwinism does not deal with abiogenesis, it is not irrelevant to "evolution" which is a word that encompasses more that just the neo Darwinian synthesis, i.e.TOE. Its also called chemical evolution by believers in abiogenesis.