@fadethetrade The bottom line is that you have not addressed my main point which was who did Tyson beat on his ascent of his career. As far as Louis is concerned he held the title for 13 years and pretty much cleaned out the division--there was nobody else to fight. Marciano fought the best of his times. May not have been the best era of HW boxing --but he fought the best of his time. The same cannot be said of Tyson. Tyson would have lost to Ali, Foreman and Frazier and beat only Norton.
@crownedful You misjudged his ability because you have limited knowledge in boxing when it gets very scientific.At 21 ,tyson was twice the fighter he was vs ruddock in 91 asan example.He was a manufactured fighter like hagler and if the conditiong and ACTIVE SCHEDULE wasn;t maintained, a shorter heavyweight goes in at a disadvantage becasue his defenive first posture and stamina are abandoned and his punches are inaccurate.the timing was also gone as early as the bruno fight in 1989
@crownedful You see,you show flaws in your knowledge.He didnt knock out everyone.he went the distance of 12 and won most all rounds vs everyone who went the distance in that period.That showed great stamina and great corner for his style.He was the closest thing to perfection as a fighter in 87-88.Because it couldnt last long enough,schmucks like yourslef bash him
@crownedful You cant judge his career as a whole,its based on 20/20 hindsight,the way he demonstrated his great elusive skill of slipping punches and countering with blistering combiantions,all other fighters in history would become discombobulated dealing with this style for 12 rounds.smith,tucker,holy,lewis,bowe ,it didnt matter in that short period. Bowe already admitted he was terrified of tyson and he said he would cross the street when tyson was walking his way.
@crownedful I suppose marciano was overrated and sucked also ,right?What about louis?? He was known to be the champion who fought the"bum of the month club" Tyson never was given the opportunity to fight a holy or liews or ali because they were all too inexperienced,retired or just scared shitless as in lewis' reason to duck tyson in his terror era of SKILLFUL FIGHTING JERK!You're a schmuck.
@crownedful But holmes was so old and retired so much that he beat mercer 5 yrs later and almost drew with a determined prime holyfield.Interesting,you're comments are shit,they dont make any sense because you just dont get it..tucker ko'd a fit douglas who didnt run out of gas,he ran into ticker left,spinks was favored by 40% experts to beat tyson,were you one of them?? A totally diiferent tyson back then and its too scientific for you to understand if you dont have paper proof.
@crownedful You choose to take tysons career in a whole of 14 years but when you're fighting men in the ring at 14 yrs old,by the time you reach 9 title defenses,it gets a little burnt out ,even for any athlete.but idiots like yourself expect tyson to be fighting at the same level for 14 years.
@crownedful Do you put foreman high in ratings because he beat frazier?? he lost to morrison! It was tysons level of fighting that was as high or higher then Cassius Clay's in 1966.That level didnt last long enough to face the prime holy,lewis's.His level was at a 30 % in that tokyo fight with douglas.any IDIOT can see it as he walked in that ring and the videos of him being knocked down in sparring by ancient greg page.Any level headed person knows tyson was already slipping.
@crownedful YOu dont have to say "furthermore" its validless.His skill and stamina were at a stellar level but that couldnt last and in that period only a foreman would have stopped it because it was too much of a perpetual motion for 12 rounds when he was conditioned.Dont forget,lewis ran from him in 86 ,joined the olympics and still avoided tyson in his best ability.It was in that short period,any expert would still muse the idea of him testing an ali,beating any year holmes.
@fadethetrade The bottom line is that you have not addressed my main point which was who did Tyson beat on his ascent of his career. As far as Louis is concerned he held the title for 13 years and pretty much cleaned out the division--there was nobody else to fight. Marciano fought the best of his times. May not have been the best era of HW boxing --but he fought the best of his time. The same cannot be said of Tyson. Tyson would have lost to Ali, Foreman and Frazier and beat only Norton.
crownedful 3 weeks ago
@crownedful You misjudged his ability because you have limited knowledge in boxing when it gets very scientific.At 21 ,tyson was twice the fighter he was vs ruddock in 91 asan example.He was a manufactured fighter like hagler and if the conditiong and ACTIVE SCHEDULE wasn;t maintained, a shorter heavyweight goes in at a disadvantage becasue his defenive first posture and stamina are abandoned and his punches are inaccurate.the timing was also gone as early as the bruno fight in 1989
fadethetrade 3 weeks ago
@crownedful You see,you show flaws in your knowledge.He didnt knock out everyone.he went the distance of 12 and won most all rounds vs everyone who went the distance in that period.That showed great stamina and great corner for his style.He was the closest thing to perfection as a fighter in 87-88.Because it couldnt last long enough,schmucks like yourslef bash him
fadethetrade 3 weeks ago
@crownedful You cant judge his career as a whole,its based on 20/20 hindsight,the way he demonstrated his great elusive skill of slipping punches and countering with blistering combiantions,all other fighters in history would become discombobulated dealing with this style for 12 rounds.smith,tucker,holy,lewis,bowe ,it didnt matter in that short period. Bowe already admitted he was terrified of tyson and he said he would cross the street when tyson was walking his way.
fadethetrade 3 weeks ago
@crownedful from berbick to spinks,tyson would test ali and perhaps beat everyone else in history excpet young foreman.
fadethetrade 3 weeks ago
@crownedful I suppose marciano was overrated and sucked also ,right?What about louis?? He was known to be the champion who fought the"bum of the month club" Tyson never was given the opportunity to fight a holy or liews or ali because they were all too inexperienced,retired or just scared shitless as in lewis' reason to duck tyson in his terror era of SKILLFUL FIGHTING JERK!You're a schmuck.
fadethetrade 3 weeks ago
@crownedful But holmes was so old and retired so much that he beat mercer 5 yrs later and almost drew with a determined prime holyfield.Interesting,you're comments are shit,they dont make any sense because you just dont get it..tucker ko'd a fit douglas who didnt run out of gas,he ran into ticker left,spinks was favored by 40% experts to beat tyson,were you one of them?? A totally diiferent tyson back then and its too scientific for you to understand if you dont have paper proof.
fadethetrade 3 weeks ago
@crownedful You choose to take tysons career in a whole of 14 years but when you're fighting men in the ring at 14 yrs old,by the time you reach 9 title defenses,it gets a little burnt out ,even for any athlete.but idiots like yourself expect tyson to be fighting at the same level for 14 years.
fadethetrade 3 weeks ago
@crownedful Do you put foreman high in ratings because he beat frazier?? he lost to morrison! It was tysons level of fighting that was as high or higher then Cassius Clay's in 1966.That level didnt last long enough to face the prime holy,lewis's.His level was at a 30 % in that tokyo fight with douglas.any IDIOT can see it as he walked in that ring and the videos of him being knocked down in sparring by ancient greg page.Any level headed person knows tyson was already slipping.
fadethetrade 3 weeks ago
@crownedful YOu dont have to say "furthermore" its validless.His skill and stamina were at a stellar level but that couldnt last and in that period only a foreman would have stopped it because it was too much of a perpetual motion for 12 rounds when he was conditioned.Dont forget,lewis ran from him in 86 ,joined the olympics and still avoided tyson in his best ability.It was in that short period,any expert would still muse the idea of him testing an ali,beating any year holmes.
fadethetrade 3 weeks ago