Justice and Mercy!!! Why Believe in Religion (5 of ...)

Christianity has something that no other religion does... A God that is both just AND merciful!

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[Woootloops]

Yes I would agree that terms like unlimited and all knowing are nonsensical, but that's not a problem for me. It's a problem for you because you believe in a God who is defined with these qualities.

[Woootloops]

You only have something to "get done" when you want to do something. If the Tao didn't want to do anything, then he never had anything to get done, and hence, he never left anything undone.

[Woootloops]

If people are born in sin, then there compass is distorted form the start. Therefore, they cannot be blamed for their actions, and cannot be sent to Hell.

Also, if a God exists and is omniscient, omnipotent, and all good, then the Bible isn't the way God would have revealed himself. I would be talking to him right now. He would appear before me every time I needed him. No one would disbelieve. The fact that this isn't the case in the world, refutes Christianity.

[Woootloops]

And on intuit, you say Hitler was wrong, but how do you know? How do you know that he is wrong and that you are right? How do you know that I am wrong and you are right. You don't know. You have no way of knowing. All you have is a feeling that is contradicted by other people's feelings.

[hofisito]

I think the fourth alternative is a better explanation that I have to study more.

God doesn't change so neither does morality.

[Woootloops]

Animals murder each other because they have to eat. Why don't you ask God why he created a world where living beings have to devour each other to survive.

[Woootloops]

No, it might not appear logically off, it appears logically impossible. And "that doesn't mean it isn't true" is your response.

The Christian religion doesn't offer the possibility of justice and mercy happening at the same time. It doesn't work.

What you should be saying is that the Christian religion is the only religion to be stupid enough to propose that because everything about it is logically impossible or empirically wrong or non-existent, that it is therefore true...

[hofisito]

that's the age old question... can God create a rock He can't lift???

another nice thought experiment is... can something be unlimited without being limited? cuz if something unlimited couldn't be limited, then there's something it couldn't do (be limited), and it therefore couldn't be unlimited.

ie... I think you're going into a realm of logical "nonsense." in the strict philosophical definition of the worse "nonsense." something easy to do with a subject like God

[hofisito]

Lol again... justice and mercy are LOGICALLY EXCLUSIVE. That means it can't logically make sense for them to both happen at the same time.

ie how can someone get something he deserves and not at the same time?

So it might appear logically off, but that doesn't mean it isn't true.

The Christian idea is the only religion that offers the possibility of both being true

[hofisito]

And How can you be blamed by "intuiting wrongly"?

Well when you're bad, it can distort your moral intuition compass. The bible calls this a "depraved mind."

Rom 1:28 Furthermore, since they did not think it worthwhile to retain the knowledge of God, he gave them over to a depraved mind, to do what ought not to be done.

That's also why there's direct revelation from God in the Bible to guide our moral intuitions from going astray.

of course, that's in theory...