The Stolen Generation Debate

Some of my more basic thoughts on the stolen generation, being a true aussie etc.

Paul's vid I'm referring too is http://au.youtube.com/watch?v=1oAccPqxoSw&feature=related

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[raineyc51]

Coutondavis, why don't you ask my husband how it feels. He was one of the stolen children - taken at age 7 from a good home (as he discovered at age 26 when he found his family again). He is WHITE. So were many, many other stolen children. The only difference is he doesn't get subsidised medical, housing, education, and a trillion other special benefits given to ALL Aborigines, stolen or not. His plight isn't even acknowledged.

[SirFlibble]

@raineyc51

Aboriginals don't get as many benefits as you want. You may want to read the bridging the gap report Statistically Aboriginals today are still living in third world standards. Dying younger, have less access to medicine and education and are less likely to be employed.

After 200 years of oppression they need every piece of help they can get. Slowly (but no where quick enough) things are turning around, but it wont be evident in our lifetimes.

[raineyc51]

Dear Rude SirFlibble, if you LISTENED to Mr Rudd, he apologised to 'Forgotten Australians' abused in care, with no acknowledgement that many were stolen. He did use the words 'taken from your homes' without acknowledging that the taking was often wrongful. Stolen white children quite rightly object to the discriminatory differentiation and racist approach of calling Aboriginals 'Stolen' and whites 'Forgotten'.

[SirFlibble]

@raineyc51

So your concern is the use of the terminology as opposed to what actually happened.

[raineyc51]

No, SirFlibble, it was NOT typically a case of deciding children should be taken from parents and raised as Christians. That may have occurred in isolated instances, but generally Aboriginal children were taken for their own protection because mixed-blood childen were unwanted, or because social workers - rightly or wrongly, and I'm sure many were misguided - thought they were not cared for. White children were taken for the same reason, sometimes rightly and often very wrongly.

[SirFlibble]

@raineyc51

Really? My great grandmother was not abused until AFTER she was removed from her family and placed in the care of the state. She was raped and had a child. I love my aunt but she's had to live her life with that.

[fuerer24]

@SirFlibble Why should they get ANY benefits at all? Giving them benefits is deciding that they're not capable of taking care of themselves. Isn't that insulting to their people?

[fuerer24]

@SirFlibble Why is it our responsibility to bridge the gap? Before Australia was settled by Australians, the average life span of an aboriginal was less than it is now, isn't that indicative that we've already helped enough?

Eventually they're going to have to stand on their own two feet because tax payers money isn't going to fix THEIR cultural issues.

[mowy9999]

Aboriginal-ness, is not a fuckin word..

[ITouchTheElderly]

you are HARDLY abo atall.. and thats why you COULD become a lawyer. how many full/half/quater abos do you know how that are laywers? douche

[wowza685]

@ SirFlibble- People like yourself should stop perpetuating the stolen generations myth. In the past, Aboriginal children were removed for much the same reasons they are removed today- For their own protection. Aboriginal Australians receive more welfare benefits etc... than non Aborigines- Why?? Because they're Aborigines??....Now that's racist!!

[pawsnclaws100]

but kevin rudd didn't say sorry to the Aboriginals that lost their land he said sorry to the "stolen generations", a specific group of Aboriginals. Right?

[gbilios]

its like native australians are denied the right to work..the getting a job and keeping it debate!!

[gbilios]

@SirFlibble that is an unfortunate truth..for one australia is denying the human rights abuse and oppression.

[OzisGodscountry]

@SirFlibble "Access to medicine and education"-They have the same access to these as white children. Public schools dont say" sorry your're black,go away" and neither do hospitals.In fact sometimes the assistance they recieve is a lot better than whites would recieve,seen it with my own eyes.

"Less likely to be employed"-Not sure about this one because none of my Indigenous mates have any trouble finding work.But they also went to school so that may be a reason.

[OzisGodscountry]

@SirFlibble "Aboriginals today are still living in third world standards"-And why is that? I have watched countless brand new homes handed to Indigenous families only to be reduced to a shithole.

"Dying younger"- Didnt europeans have a drastically lower life expectancy 200 years ago?Doesnt most indigenous people (Inuit,maori,American first people) have a lower life expectancy than Australians?Maybe its because of genetics and lifestyles that determine life expectancy.