Don't learn a language backwards !

video response to Laoshu !
The wrong way: grammar first
the right way: listening and reading first and then get fluency and eventually touch the grammar part !

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• 2010
• 04
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• 13;10;46

[Skomakarn]

I don't agree entirely, Loki. I can inflect, for example, all ~60 forms of a Portuguese word by heart, after studying them and finding the patterns. I can read and write all of the Japanese kana characters. That doesn't mean I know what all words mean when I read them, no, but that doesn't mean it's worthless. Already knowing the inflections, I can easily pick the one I need when I find myself in a conversation. I know how to spell new words when I learn them. It helps! Just learn words too!

[loki2504]

@Skomakarn I always said there are a lot of ways you can choose to learn a language. I personnaly never cram grammar at the beginning (except for Arabic which an exception due to its complexity) I just try to chill out and absorb without grammar =) Grammar really helps me after maybe 1 year of intense study

[Trinivalts]

Couldn't agree more! I learned to understand basic russian by "not learning", well.. without any effort because it's common to hear russian at my place from various sources. I didn't take it at school and I put about 1% effort in "learning" it. It just came to me really slowly over my lifetime. And last week I kickstarted the cyrillic alphabet (knew partially some time before) and Now I can read in it at a satisfying pace. (still slow but it's not driving my insane, lol)

[loki2504]

@Trinivalts Keep learning man !!! You'll make huge progress if you learn at least 30min a day !

[p90xNick]

How long do you think one would need to spend only readding texts and stuff before they are able to communicate?? I can speak in French but I learned it in school. Plus I lived there for a year, but I had a pretty good idea of French before I went there.

[loki2504]

@p90xNick Well it depends on many factors: which language, how many efforts you invest everyday, do you live in the country?

Like easy language should be between 6 months to 1 year (for me it was italian I made it in 4 months, but I still have to get better), hard language: like japanese I almost studied it 2 years and still have to read more to be completely fluent. My big problem is that I don't have the opportunity to speak it often...

[goldenhotdogs]

@loki2504 I'm currently learning Japanese and when I get better, if you want maybe we can chat in it if you want?

[natethepurplepirate]

what is your native language?

[ZeinW]

Why

[luvccritters2]

@TheLmfaoMovement korean simply put videos on you tube are extremely helpful with sentence structure. So far they are the best korean grammer videos i have found. Hope this helps.

[sa79296]

great video.. i never thought of learning that way

[tavit111]

...learn any language just in school

[tavit111]

I think the problem with school lessons is they act language learning like other subjects. Topics are boring and system of grade is not effective. I don't know like in Belgian or any other country but in Poland we have something like "short test", and we have to learn some like 50 vocabulary and try to translate on test and that ridiculous, most of those vocabulary average student never hear and while after this test students forget most vocabulary. Even my english teacher said that we never...

[TheLmfaoMovement]

I'm learning Korean. I have been for quite some time..

I have the alphabet memorized. I'm fairly good at pronunciation.

I know a satisfying amount of words, along with a couple handfuls of sentences,

but I cannot understand Korean sentence structure.

I mean, I do understand it, but I just.. can't create my own sentences.

It's impossible for me. It's quite irritating.

Do you think you can recommend a good website that would help me out?