Two Views of Kirkuk

We arrived in a hurry with Peshmerga General Mam Rostam and left in comparative ease. Here are a couple of quick views of Kirkuk.

Category:

News & Politics

Tags:

• Kirkuk
• Iraq
• Driving
• Peshmerga

[MotherOfScorpions]

it seems that the kurdish do not give an inkling about iraq and only about themselves,

why do they think the world owes them this huge favour, they should think in terms of iraq, not of only themselves,

kirkuk should be controlled by baghdad and oil wealth distributed amongst iraq's sectors fairly,

it is not nice what has happened to ethic groups in iraq, but the kurds have no right to say "mine" or "all ours", and "i" all the time,

[pslblog]

The Kurds can say "we". For instance, they can say "We are less screwed up than the rest of Iraq." or "We have no terrorist violence compared to the rest of Iraq" or "We would like to be able to trust the Oil Ministry, but experience has shown what happens when we do that" and "We are a lot more exposed and we have fewer rich allies".

Regrettably, they can also say "We have corrupt officials, too" like they just did in the recent elections.

[pslblog]

My point with Hadrian's wall is that the presence of Roman buildings in Scotland doesn't make Edinburgh Italian. Ancient buildings may have some significance to the region's culture, but are not a determinant of the region's culture.

There are no 100% Kurdish areas of any scope, except the remnants of Saddam's concentration camps where the Kurdish villagers were rounded up. The best hope for minorities in Kurdistan is the KDP/PUK conflict, both power blocks need allies for control.

[pslblog]

Norlimon,

First, the Kurds live in a tough neighborhood and their responses sometimes go over the top. However, telling a group that has been targeted for extermination by Arabs that they shouldn't be suspicious of Arabs is beyond insulting.

I've packed up and moved so many times that I lost count at 100. I cried when I was five. I got over it. I know that there are worse things than not having a homeland. Dirt is what you make of it and oil is not wealth.

[Norlimon]

"Extermination by Arabs?" Are you talking about Saddam? He tried to exterminate us shia muslims too. Kurds are just as bad as Arabs, the Assyrians and Turkomens don't have it good in Kurdish areas, and giving that land to kurds would only mean that non-Kurdish minorities woul be subject to oppression because a lot of Kurds think everything in Nort-Iraq is historically Kurdish, even though you can find 3000 year old buildings made by non-Kurds in said areas, like the citadel in Kirkuk.

[pslblog]

Norlimon,

Thank you for responding civilly, many of the comments on this video have been deleted because they were extremely foul.

Saddam did persecute the Shia, and his actions against the Marsh Arabs were foul. It bothers me that many groups in Iraq are influenced by the fascist methods of Saddam. Assyrians are doing better than Turkomen because their religion gives them stronger allies. As for buildings, Hadrian's wall doesn't make Scotland Italian.

[KURDISTAN4evah]

KIRKUK IS KURDISTYAN!!!

[WhiteScorpio11]

Kirkuk belongs to kurdistan, even a donkey knows that you arab and turk fuckers!

[dataman121]

@KurdSouth 100% true and not less.

Were was Turkey when Saddam killed Turkmens Kurds, Assyrians, Shiis? Where were their demands when Saddam was ruling Iraq? Only after Kurds get the control of their land back now Turkey becomes interested in their Turkmen "Brothers"

[Sarezh998]

Kirkuk is KURDISTAN, LOOK UP IN HISTORYYYYYYY!!

[mistressouka]

haha i know where this is what road....lol

[mashad0]

Kirkuk (Karkuk) was is and will be a Kurdish city.

Biji Kirkuki Kurdistan

[iraqiserseri587]

this is not turkmeleni or kurdish you stupid, this is iraq and still IRAQ...

[sXxXe]

you can't cout "intelligence" on power .. maybe we all dumb but if someone thinks like you he is dumber than we all

one love from kirkuk

[Norlimon]

@sermantje Sure you are smarte3r than your neighbors honey. That's why the Kurds and their ancestors have made the biggest civilizations. The Pharaohs of Egypt, the Babylonians, the Phoenicians, the Sumerians, the Ottoman Empire, the Arab Caliphate, the Sassanid Empire, they were all Kurdish right?

L O L

[sermantje]

yes so? i never said all arabs were the same.

and annoying i guess the truth is annoying to you.

but kurds never had an independent state with all the things that come with it, like foreign investments and business trade, places of higher education,water purification installations, power plants,hospitals, basic infrastructure etc

all these things are denied to the kurds to keep them dumb and divided.

and dont think kurds are dumb ppl we are just as smart if not smarter then our neighbours.

[Norlimon]

@sermantje So what? Arabs are not made of up of one people only but many people. Egyptian Arabs and Iraqi Arabs have different ancestors. Algerian Arabs and Kuwaiti Arabs have different ancestors. Do me a favor and read a history book before annoying me again. As for Kurds I think you should have your own country, but Kirkuk is not yours, not all of it.